Marsh family letters and notes from the Heath-Caldwell archive.
Marsh Letters (In chronological order).
This relates to the family and descendants of:
George Marsh (1722-1800) Commissioner of the Navy who married Ann Long (1720-1784).
William Marsh (1755-1846) the banker who married first Amelia Cuthbert (1765?-1793), second Frances Graham (1770-1805), third Elizabeth Tresilian (1769?-1838).
Arthur Cuthbert Marsh (1786-1849) who married Anne Caldwell (Marsh-Caldwell) (1791-1874)
1638
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The Grant of Arms and Crest to the Family of Marsh of Langdon and Maston in the County of Kent was entered in the College of Arms dated 26 January 1638 In the Visitation of Kent Anno 1663 are entered two branches of the Family of Marsh viz 4 Descents of Maston signed John Marsh and three Descents of Langdon signed Thoma Marsh.
1639
file 9771 The Book of Common Prayer and administration of the sacraments and other rites and ceremonies of the Church of England. Imprinted at London by Robert Barker, painter to King's most Excellent Majesty and by the assignes of John Bell 1639, cum privilegio. Deep architectural uncut border 1in all round.
1659
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George Marsh, son of George Marsh baptised 2 November 1651
Walter Marsh of Titchfield, buried 25 February 1654
Elizabeth Marsh of George Marsh born ye 15th and baptised ye 30th of December 1655
Thomas Marsh of George Marsh bap. 25 January 1656
Thomas Marsh, son of George Marsh bap(?) 27 January 1636
Phillip Marsh buried 6 June 1657 Henry Marsh of George Marsh baptised 21 November 1657
Charles Marsh of George Marsh born 17 August, baptised 20 September 1660
Joane Marsh of George Marsh, baptised 25 October 1662
Elizabeth Marsh of George Marsh buried 25 April 1664
Elizabeth Marsh, daughter of George Marsh baptised 2 August 1665
William Marsh buried 25 March 1666
Ann Marsh of widow of William buried 11 April 1666 Elizabeth Marsh, daughter of George Marsh buried 6 March 1666
Joane, the wife of George Marsh buried 17 December 1673
George Marsh buried 26 May 1677 Jane Marsh, daughter of Henry and Jane baptised 17 April 1687
Harry Marsh, son of Henry and Jane, baptised 30 November 1689
Richard Marsh, brother of (Goody Hanxman of Chilling far was buried 28 October 1692
Elizabeth, daughter of Mic. Marsh of Puntly and Elizabeth baptised 31 December 1726
Jane Marsh, daughter of John Marsh and Ann (at zee?) was baptised 24 July 1729
John, son of John Marsh baptised 24 September 1734
John Marsh of the Iron Mill buried 20 May 1737
Elizabeth, daughter of John Marsh and Anne baptised 29 August 1737.
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John Marsh buried 15 February 1743
Edward Marsh and Ann Wheeler were married 25 March 1744
Peter Parsons and Jane Marsh were married 2 October 1746
William Norie and Mary Marsh were married 30 January 1753
Mrs Jane Marsh was buried 24 May 1753
Jane of Thomas and Joane Marsh baptised 13 March 1763
Francis Marsh was buried 30 Sept 1769
From the New (Munr?) Register Thomas(?) Marsh of the Parish of Fareham and Joane Martin of this parish were married 18 February 1759
William Low and Sarah Marsh, both of this parish were married 2 February 1767
Richard Eston(?) and Elizabeth Marsh married 16 July 1770
All above was taken from ye registers of the Parish Church of Titchfield in the County of Southampton by me, Gil. Jackson, Vicar I believe the name of Richard Marsh is mentioned in no other place in them since ye year 1630
1699
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coat of arms drawn
The field is diamond, a lion rampant between eight crosses Crosslets - Pearle. This coat armour pertaineth to the ancient family of Long of Wiltshire whereof the Honourable and virtuous Baroness, the Lady Russel.
A Rectory and rated in the King's books at £9.0.0 per annum. Places of Note (hue?) 1 - East Langdon Manor anciently belonged to the Archbishop Canterbury - on the suppression of religious houses was granted by Henry 7th (?) to Mr John and Thomas Marsters of Sandwich and their descendant Mr Richard Masters was the possessor in Philpot's time. 2 - by Merton, or Marton Street, or anciently, more truly Marsh -town is a burgh which lies (file 9774) in the Parish of East Langdon and gave name to the famly of the Marshes - which anciently were written de Marisco. This famly had been in possession of this Burgh above 300 years and continued so in Philpots time. And in the Chancel of the Church is a monument of Thomas Marsh of this place of Marston, Esq., in the year 1634. (next page) From Guillim's Heraldry - published in 1699 "He beareth Gules and Horse head couped, Argent,by the name of Marshe (drawing of horse head shield.) He beareth Gules a horses head couped, between Crosses Botony (fitchee?), Argent by the Name of Marshe and is the coat armour of Sir Thomas Marshe of (Darks?) in the parish of South-Mums in Middlesex, Kent.
1735
File 0420 page 1 Draft - many edits Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy. Mr.Marsh was destinied for the Naval Service and accordingly in the Spring of the year 1735 being then 13 years of Age he was entered on board His Majesty's Ship Neward of 80 guns bearing the Flag of Admiral Sir George Walton, to whom Mr.Marsh was related and under whose Auspices he entered on his profession, Sir George however striking his flag in December of that year Mr.Marsh's friends thought it advisable that he also should leave the Newark and enter the Civil Service of the Navy; he was therefore placed in the Dockyard at Chatham where he served in various branches of that establishment and particularly under Mr.Charles Middleton until the year 1744 when in May of that year Captain Thomas Whorwood of the Royal Navy being appointed Commissioner of Woolwich and Deptford Dockyards, he selected Mr.Marsh to accompany him as his Clerk.
1745
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy. In October 1745 Mr.Marsh was at the request of Captain Whorwood recommended by Lord Winchelsea to Admiral (Haddick?) at that time Comptroller of the Navy, who in consequence removed him to his own office at the Navy Office. About this time the House of Commons having called for a comparative account of the Naval Expenditure in the war then carrying on, with that of Queen Anne's War for an equal length of time, Mr.Marsh was selected by the Comptroller of the Navy, by reason of his perfect acquaintance with the business of the Dock Yards, to prepare the Accounts which was to comprize Page 2 - 5 years and 9 months of the Expenditure in each of the wars (in his?) review; this labourious duty Mr.Marsh undertook and completed it so much to the satisfaction of the Board that they placed him o the permanent establishment of the Office for the close and incessant application for four months which this completion of the accounts required, produced a serious disorder form which Mr.Marsh did not recover for several years.
1746
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Legal Document -
1746 Manor of Hendon in the County of Middlesex
The Court Seet and View of Free pledge with the Court Baron of the most noble William Marsh(?) of Powis (commonly called Duke of Powis) held in and for the said Manor at the usual place on Tuesday next before the feast of the Pentecost (that is to say) ye thirteenth day of May in the Nineteenth year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord King George the Second and in the year of our Lord God One thousand and Seven hundred and forty six (1746)
Before John Allen Pusey Esquire, Chief Steward of the said Manor.
At this Court it is found and presented by the Jurors and Homage upon their Oaths that Mary Marsh, Spinster, is sister and Heir of Thomas Marsh late one of the Customary Tenants of this Manor deceased
Now at this same Court (the Court then Sitting) comes the said Mary Marsh in her proper person and in full and open Court humbly requested to be admitted Tenant of and in and to
All that piece Auxiaene auxeux of Wast containing by estimation four Poles in length and three in breadth adjoining to towards the East to an house of the said Mary Marsh situate and being at a certain place within the said Manor called Golders Green lately in the possession of John Randall lying within this Manor of which her said Brother Thomas Marsh died seized
Whereupon the Lord of the said Manor doth by his said Chief Steward grant Seizinter?) of by the rod according to the custom of the said Manor
To have and to hold the above mentioned piece or parcel of wast Ground with the Appurts unto the said Mary Marsh, her heirs and assigns for ever
To be held of Lord by the (smudge - thickout?) at the Will of the Lord according to the custom of the said Manor
By fealty the Ancient Rent and Rents ((Scciet?) of Court part other rents?) duties and (tcroices?) in respect thereof heretobefore accustomed
And the same Mary Marsh hath Given to the Lord of the said Manor as and for a fine for such her estate in the said premises as appears in the Margin
She is admitted Tenant thereof and hath (Scriven - Seizin?) by the rod but her fealty is ressured (? - smudge) Examined by J.W. Allen Pusey Steward (Margin - Rent - 6d. Fine 10s.0d)
1746
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq.
A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
In June 1746 Commissioner Compton being removed from the Navy Board to be resident Commissioner at Deptford and being aware of the value that Mr.Marsh's experience in that department would give to his services, solicited Admiral Haddock to permit Mr.Marsh to accompany him as his Clerk, in which situation he continued until Christmas 1746 when Commissioner Compton having resigned his office in consequence of some misunderstanding with the Duke of Bedford who was then first Lord of the Admiralty, he recommended Mr.Marsh to the Navy Board in a letter highly honorable to his zeal and abilities, for the situation of Naval Officer at Antigua which was then vacant, but Admiral Haddock being dead and Commissioner Compton's influence having (probably?) been impaired by his resignation, his recommendation was not successful, and Mr.Marsh remained until the end of the year 1748 Clerk to the Commissioner at Deptford,to which office Commissioner Davies was appointed on the resignation of Mr.Compton.
After the Peace of Aix le Chappelle the continuance of a resident Commissioner at Deptford was considered unnecessary and Mr.Davies name was left out of the new Patent for the Navy Board. On his retirement he strongly urged Mr.Marsh's claims to be (re-entered?) on the establishment of the Navy Office, which he had quitted merely on compliance with the request of his superiors the late Comptroller, Admiral Haddock and Commissioner Compton, however it was not until the year 1750 that Mr.Marsh was re-appointed by Admiral Morton, then Comptroller to the situation he had quitted in the Commissioners office in 1746.
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The enclosed Papers were all found amongst my dear Father's relating to our Pedigree. (different handwriting) Above Walter and William Marsh, our Grandfather born 1755. (LMC.)
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Family tree
Thomas Marsh of East Langdon in Kent = Jone daughter of - -Gorham of Waltham
Richard Marsh of East Langdon _ Mary, daughter of John Gooking Ripple in Kent.
Thomas Marsh of East Langdon a. 1663 = Anne,daughter of Thomas Knight of Canterbury
Thomas Marsh,son and heir, 1663 = Silvester,daughter of Thomas Marshof Denton.
2 - John. 3 - Richard. 4. Rober 5.William 6. James 1. Thomas at 18 anni a 1663.7. Henry Silvester, daughter.
Thomas Marsh.
A true extract taken from the Visitation of Kent made by Sir Edward Bysshe Knt. Clarenceaux King of Arms, anno 1663, mark'd d. 18.fol: 141.6
Ralph Poigland, Somerset. 27 March 1765
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Coat of arms depiction
These are the Armes and Crest appertaining unto the Family of the Marshes of Langden in the County of Kent, descended by a double Right by Father and Mother, unto Richard Marsh of Marton in Langden aforesaid, Gentleman, And do also of Right belong unto Thomas Marsh, eldest son of Mr Richard Marsh of Langden aforesaid, another Branch of the Family, which with due Differences they may lawfully bear and shew forth according to the Lawes of Armes: which Armes and Craft are exemplified, ratified, and confirmed to the said Richard Marsh of Marton, and Thomas Marsh of Langden and to their Posterity for ever.
Written Segar Garter Principall King of Armes
A true copy extracted from Register. Vol.1,Folio 391, now remaining in the College of Arms, 22 March 1765.
Ralph Bigland, Somerset.
1751
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq.
A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
In May 1747 (51 ?) the Accounts for the Treasurer of Mr.Doddington having to be made up and all arrears upon them finished, Mr.Marsh was requested by Admiral Mostyn to go to Chatham in the Pay branch of his office, where there were at least 1,500 books to be made up, Mr.Marsh accordingly went to that Port in June 1751 and did not return to his regular duty at the Navy office until December 1753 when the business at Chatham was completed.
1752
Apprentice
Francis Milbourne Marsh, son of Milbourne Marsh, Shipwright of Chatham, Kent, apprentice to Robert Plumstead, (Draper?) for 7 years.
1755
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq.
A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
In February 1755 Admiral Mostyn selected Mr.Marsh to accompany him as his Secretary to Plymouth whither he went to superintend the fitting out of the Fleet then preparing at that Port, his own Secretary being at Sea, this duty was most arduous and harrassing but on the 5th April Admiral Mostyn's Secretary having returned and the Admiral having sailed from Plymouth in the Augusta in which ship his Flag was flying, Mr.Marsh returned to the Navy Office.
In June 1755 Mr.Marsh was ordered to proceed to Portsmouth to attend to the payment of the large Fleet whose rendezvous was at that Port; this duty was extremely laborious requiring his going out almost daily and in all weather to ships lying at St.Helen's and Spithead.
1757
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy. In October 1757 Mr.Marsh was ordered to return form Portsmouth to London to make up the accounts of the Treasurer of the Navy and to carry on the current Duty of the Comptroller's office.
1763
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq.
A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
On the 18th December 1763 the Earl of Egmont was appointed first Lord of the Admiralty. Mr.Marsh had been fortunate as to render some essential Service to this Nobleman about the year 1755, having been introduced to his Lordship by Commissioner Scott, to whom Mr.Marsh became known during his Service at Chatham Dock Yard in the years 1751, 2 + 3 and who was warmly attached to and interested for Mr.Marsh from the knowledge he acquired of his character and ability on that occasion.
Lord Egmont recollecting the Services that Mr.Marsh had formerly rendered sent for him and offered him the post of his Private Secretary which honorable and confidential situation he enjoyed so long as his Lordship continued First Lord of the Admiralty.
1764
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq.
A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
On the 13 August 1764 Lord Egmont quitted the Admiralty having previously appointed Mr.Marsh a Commissioner of the Victualling Board and Comptroller of the Receiver's Office of the (opening, spening?) Duty; his Lordship also assured Mr.Marsh that he had recommended him to the King to be removed on the first vacancy to the Navy Board and that His Majesty had been pleased to make a memorandum of his recommendation.
1769
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
In April 1769 Lord Hawke being First Lord of the Admiralty appointed Mr.Marsh one of the Directors of Greenwich Hospital.
1770
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
In the year 1770 Lord Egmont died in him Mr.Marsh lost a powerful patron and a sincere friend by whose good offices he benefitted even after his death for in 1772 the Earl of Sandwich being the First Lord of the Admiralty sent for Mr.Marsh and acquainted him that the King, on the late Earl of Egmont's recommendation, had been pleased to command that he should secure the appointment of Commissioner of the Navy, then vacant by the death of Captain Hanway.
File 9858 Document cover 13 May 1770 (1710?) Henden Manor Admission of Mary Marsh on the death of (Thos?) Marsh to a power of (Warts?) at Golders Green 4 Poles by 3.. N.4 (Pencil - Golders Green, Hendon)
1772
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
Mr Marsh was appointed accordingly and had the honor to kiss his Majesty's hand on the 14th October 1772.
1773
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
Mr.Marsh attended him, in his special command, every morning at 5 o'clock, His Majesty being pleased to say that Mr.Marsh knew every thing he wished to enquire about;" he walked all parts of the Dockyard inspecting every Department with great minuteness, attended by Mr.Marsh, for several hours, before the other Members of the Naval Board were stirring. On the 28 June Mr.Marsh secured notice from Mr.Secretary Stephens that the King had been pleased to command that he should succeed Mr.Mason as Clerk of the Acts of the Navy; His Majesty no doubt considered that by the appointment he was conferring from him on Mr.Marsh as well as a mark of his approbation, but in fact it only imposed on Mr.Marsh greater labour and confinement without any addition of Rank, Salary or Patronage. On the 5th July 1773 however, Mr.Marsh took his seat as Clerk of the Acts of his Majesty's Navy.
1774
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On the 5th of December 1763, Mr Marsh took Mr Ommaney into his House, to have the Sole Super-intendency of his Agency business, with the assitance of such Clerk, or Clerks as he should require, and agreed for Eleven Years certain to share with him the Nett Profits arising from it, and in case of Mr Ommanney's death before that Term expired his Executors were to have nothing more to do with the Business, but in case of Mr Marsh's his Executors were to have the same power therein as himself would have had. After Mr.Ommanney had conducted the business between 7 & 8 years Mr Marsh proposed to him that his Son (William Marsh) might attend the Countinghouse in order to his taking him his Partner after his connection with Mr Marsh should expire, when to his great surprise Mr Ommanney declined it, urging that it was not mentioned when he was taken into the House, that he had an aversion to Partnership, and that by the time his connections with Mr Marsh expired, Mr Marsh's friends would be chiefly dead, or worked out of the House, and those remaining would be mostly his friends. Mr Marsh replied that although he did not mention his Son when he took Mr Ommanney into partnership, yet it was evident from the Agreement and between them, that he did not intend giving up a business he had been near twenty years aquiring, and if many of his friends should be dead &c, when the connection with him would expire, he asked Mr Ommanney whose they were when he was admitted into the business, that the reasons for not mentioning his Son to Mr Ommanney at that time were that his Son was then a Child, consequently no judgment could be formed what turn he might take, and as he could not have conceived that if he ever should make such a proposal to a Man who had been taken from a Clerkship in a Dock Yard of £40 a Year (as Mr Ommanney ) and placed in an established good business in which he had a fortune should afterwards refuse to take the Son of so great a friend and benefactor. Whereupon Mr Ommanney consented (though unwillingly) to Mr Marsh's Son attending the Countinghouse, but he neither employed, conversed with, or showed him anything of the business, or introduced him to any of the Gentlemen who came to the House, Mr Marsh therefore took him from thence and placed him in the Victualing Office, to get acquainted with Public business &c., till his connection wityh Mr Ommanney should expire. In October 1773 Mr Ommanney expressed his concern that he could not take Mr.Marsh's Son, he having very great gratitude to him and much respect for his Son, but observed he should be miserable to truct any Man as he had him, (who never looked into any of his Books or Accounts, but left the whole to his honour and honesty) which would not have been the case if Mr Marsh's Son had been taken a partner by Mr.Ommanney who still would had the Superintendency of the whole business. However, Mr.Ommanney requested, that though he had declined taking Mr.Marsh's Son, it might make no difference between them, to which Mr.Marsh replied, he should have been very glad if Mr.Ommanney had consented to take his Son, but as he seemed to dislike partnerships much, it should make no difference between them, provided he acted properly, and then observed to Mr.Ommanney that when the connection with him expired, his Son should settle in the business with Mr.Creed (who had lived 15 years a Clerk with Mr Marsh and Mr.Ommanney.) when would entreat the favour of such Gentlemen for whom he transacted business before he took Mr.Ommanney into his House, or who went there since on his account to transfer their business to his Son and Mr.Creed and assured Mr.Ommanney he would not apply to any of his particular friends and said he expected the like conduct from him, and indeed Mr Marsh then concluded he should have had it, where as he very soon after applied privately to Mr.Marsh's particular friends (to whom he was remarkably obliging and taken every method to ingratiate himself in their favour) to continue their business with him, acquainting them the connection would expire on 5th December 1774, when the business would naturally devolve to him only, and therefore begged the continuance of theirs at his House, carefullly avoiding to mention one word of Mr.Marsh's Son's intentions which he had known ever since the year 1770, and as they had not been wrote to by Mr.Marsh, most of them promised the continuance of their business wiht Mr.Ommanney, but many of Mr.Marsh's friends now look on such promises to be totally void, they having been obtained by such ungratefull misrepresentations. Indeed some time after Mr.Ommanney had taken this step, he offered to join with Mr.Marsh in a Letter to all their friends, but as he had proceeded so ungenerously, this was refused, and although Mr.Ommanney asserts that Mr.Marsh applied first, he very well knew Mr Marsh never solicited his friends, and that it was only to two or three of his own particular friends who were settled abroad, and even when he did write, he told Mr.Ommanney of it, whereas a very contrary conduct appears too evident on his part, and that he wanted to grasp at the whole business, to obtain which he has taken very ungrateful and detestable methods. In September last, Mr.Ommanney offered to take Mr.Marsh's Son, when he very well knew he had settled his partnership with Mr.Creed, with whom it would - - - (file 0246 )- - - would therefore have been dishonourable and dishonest, to have broke off, or deserted, but at Mr.Ommanney's instigation Mr.Marsh wrote to Mr.Creed thereon, and observed that his Son should not break his agreement with him on any account unless some proposal should be made that would induce Mr.Creed to desire it, and make him quite easy, but as Mr.Ommanney did not make any proposals, no more was said upon the subject. In the first year after Mr.Ommanney was taken into the House, the Interest of the Stock and Gain in the business was £1406..5..0 which has been annually encreasing ever since, and Mr.Marsh was so much Mr.Ommanney's friend that he took him without any Premium which he was offered by others. He now represents as a (salve?) for his ingratitude that the trouble of the whole business has been on him, a trouble he most eagerly and thankfully embraced, as many others would gladly have done.
1776
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My dear Father's Journal to Hamburg between 27 February and 5 June 1776! Papa's Inkstand drawer.
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
On the 18th February 1776 Mr.Marsh with Sir Hugh Palliser, Captain Suckling, a Comptroller, and Sir John Williams, Surveyor of the Navy attended a Council held at the Admiralty as to the expediency of hiring transports in Holland and at Hamburg for the purpose of conveying Hessian troops to America, when the Council having determined his Majesty's right to engage foreign shipping for the purpose (transports not being to be procured in England) it was ordered that a principal officer of a Dock Yard, under his direction together with a Commissioner of the Victualling for the purpose of hiring equipment and victualling transports sufficient to convey 15,000 men to America. It was first intended by the Navy Board Page 6 - that either Commissioner Brett or Commissioner Palmer should go on this Service, but Lord Sandwich sending for Mr.Marsh requested as a personal favour to himself, that he would undertake this (crossed out - Service) mission urging Mr.Marsh's peculiar fitness for it form his perfect aquaintance with this part of the Service and adding to many other compliements that he (Lord Sandwich) knew that by doing so Mr.Marsh "would much please the King." Mr.Marsh represented that his Duties as Clerk of the Acts required his constant attendance at the Navy Board and that it would be unprecedented and (productive?) of great inconvenience were he, filling this office, to proceed on the proposed Service, nevertheless Lord Sandwich persisted in urging Mr.Marsh so strongly on the point that Mr.Marsh was compelled to yeild and in two days after this conference Mr.Marsh set out for Hamburgh accompanied by John Hanway Esq., a Commissioner of the Victualling and two officers from Deptford Dock yard and arrived there on the 10th March. He immediatly proceeded to hire 35,000 Tons of shipping and to store, victual and prepare the same for the reception of 17,000 Hessian Troops. The Duke of Brunswick and the Prince of Hesse often inspected the progress of this service and expressed their approbation and thanks to Mr.Marsh and Mr.Hanway for the zeal and activity they displayed and forthe ample accommodation provided for the officers and soldiers about to be embarked. This important Service being completed Mr.Marsh set out and on his return to England and arrived at the Navy Office on the 4th June. On the 6th June he attended the Levee and was presented by Lord Sandwich and most graciously received by his Majesty. Mr.Marsh also received many high compliments from Lord Sandwich on the manner in which he had excuted the Service assuring him that his conduct had given great satisfaction as well to the King as to his Ministers; Mr.Marsh however, secured no other testimony of the approbation he had merited either pecuniary or otherwise; he had his bare travelling expenses paid and nothing more.
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Mr Con(?) One of our old grateful and sincere friends - W.M. Letter - To George Marsh, Navy Office, London From - Mr Dear Sir, Your favor the 20th of February informs me of your Attention to Mr.Anderson's Request, which is an Addition to the many Obligations you have conferred on me, and increases a Debt, my utmost Gratitiude cannot pay, yet I hope you will believe it will be fully exerted on any occasion that it may be applicable to the Service of you or yours. My friends of Savage Garden have made me acquainted of poor Beall's death and Anderson's ill fortune in your absence at the time. I will communicate your letter and theirs to Mr. Anderson on our return to Antigua. The Portland is now here collecting the Ships of the Island and is to sail on the 8th instant, as a Convoy for them to the Northward, but how far is yet a secret, our Orders being sealed an to remain so untill our Arrrival in a certain Latitude. On parting with the Ships we are to cruize 'till August in hopes of picking up a few more Americans, which is a Pursuit the Portland has been employed on ever since January last with some Success. My proportion of our Captain's being about £50 Stg. The whole amount of Prizes made by our Squadron does not fall much short of £40,000 which is an event that renders the Station far more eligible to the Admiral than his most sanguine Wishes in a pecuniary view could direct hm, until this unfortunate contest that we are engaged in arrived tothe Crisis it has. The Admiral's good fortune is much damped by the Chargrine he has met in the disappointment of his Son's promotion and is I believe, greatly mortified. His son does not return to the Portland, Mr.Drummond being removed from the Argo to be our 3rd Lieutenant, Windsor is 1st and Swiney 2nd. Mr.Luck is appointed to the Argo on this Occasion and Mr.Bryon and Mr.Douglas are to be made Lieutenants on the purchase of two armed Vessels by Admiralty Order. I have secured Luck and Douglas as Clients for our Friends, which would have also been the case with Byron had not his Father's Connection with Sykes induced him to employ that Gentleman. Please to make my respectful compliments to your Family and accept the good Wishes for them and you of, Dear Sir, Your sincere Friend, Thomas Cons, St.Chritophers, 5 June 1776 Mr Woodyear desires his Respects in which he is joined by his Father who is a man in much (respect?) here, and will I hope accomplish the Preferment he aims at for his Son, which I am glad to find you are inclined to assist on.
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7 June 1776
Mr Hanway, Commissioner of the Victualing and who had been left at Hamburg to complete the Victualling of the Transports &c as my dear Father and the Dock Yard Officers who went out with him had returned Home having taken up and Surveyed all the said Transports for he Hessian Troops Letter to - George Marsh Esq., Navy Office, (the celebrated "Jonas Hanway." Dear Sir, I am much obliged to you for your obliging letter from Brussels and glad the Rout and you was happily got so far. I thought Mr.G.M. should have gone sooner and you not so soon. However, I have succeeded as well as can be expected under the circumstances. "Alls well that ends well." I am in (?) The (Jongo?) David is equipt in time to be of the utmost good use. And the (Troturyn?) after Holy day and contrary winds and if inclinations of her Master to be in no hurry, is gone. The Brunswickers were fortunate and I trust the Hessians will find (stowage?). You will find what further tonnage is deemed necessary to forward allthe Troops to America. I mentioned to your Board what my observation and strongest conviction suggestsed to me, the necessity of providing ventilation for all foreign transports as I believe we have in our own. (To a very imagined (Ulessed?) Sailor would be sufficient. I am confident that upon the tryal in fair weather and in foul they will be found very in sufficient. The health of the troops is the Great Object. As while could not go in the (Scorheyn?) consistant with the Advancement of the Public Business I shall recommend your (Linnen &c to the care of Mr.Hanbury. And perhaps you will find the fairest way of getting them home is the cheapest I am tenacious of Public Revenue for I live by it. With compliments to all (f.ds?) I am Dear Sir, Your most sincere &c Jonas Hanway Hamburg 7 June 1776 The Hessians are now embarking. Some of them I imagine are sailed.
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29 August 1776
Letter to George Marsh Esq., Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy, Navy Office, London from - Lord Bristol (William Hervey) From Ickworth on his private Concerns and also the state of things in America. Ickworth, 29 August 1776 Dear Sir, I am extremely obliged by the two letters you wrote me, and return you my thanks for the news one conveyed tho' I am most sincerely sorry for so unpleasant a dawn of our (fuher, future?) hopes; nevertheless I flatter myself we shall have better success at New York; tho' it surpasses my imagination with so extraordinary and (unequalled?) a fleet of ships as we have now confined to one object, that their numbers cannot preventthe (tiny?) attempts of the American privateers. I will say no more on so very unpleasant a subject 'till you are so good to send me better accounts which I wait for with impatience. I send you enclosed the Certificate to enable (G. Son?) to get my half-pay. The reward of 43 years Service. I thank God I want no others of any sort or kind, but this I will assure you, that if my services were at all wanted, where I'd think myself of use, I think I'd be ashamed at this time to make a bargain for the payment of them, or even to accept what I know the Public cannot afford to give. I wish all the great and rich'd think like me, we would soon ease the Poor of their Taxes and the Government of their Pensions and Sallaries. I am perfectly recovered and perfectly well, the Weather tho' against my usual (Aings?) and exercise. Mrs (Neoh') desires her best compliments to you and believe me Dear Mr Marsh with great truth your affectionate friend (DSen'd) Bristol If you can prey send me an exact list of our Fleet, number of Guns, and men employed in Americal. I do not want the names of the Ships or Captains - and what Ships are now at home as Guardships. You may depend no one shall here from whence I got my accounts. When W. Marsh receives my half pay, he will be so good to pay it to my Bankers. Gosling, Clive and Gosling.
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Letter 4 September 1776
Lord Bristol, from Ickworth Park. on American Affairs. To - George Marsh Esq., Navy Office, London. Thank you Dear Sir, for yours of the 2nd and enclosed return you the Certificate signed by myself. The South Carolina Affair does no honor to those who Command: There appears gross errors in not knowing the (Lundays?), and in loosing so much time after their appearance before the attack but an Enquiry may clear all that up to us Spectators. The news from New York will be of the most interesting nature to these Kingdoms, for I am sorry to say I find in the Country, every one in general, growing sullenly peevish at our measures: and indeed I am afraid wiht too much reason, I suppose the opeing of Parliament will be attended with many enquiries, and great acrimony. I am determined to attend with that impartiality which I think my Country deserves, and ought to expect from every Individual situated as I am. I am surprised Lord S.- is so seldom in Town, for I have just a letter from him, saying he has not got three days to spare or to come here to me, and will the moment he has, but I do not believe he is quite so fond of a Certain Person as he was - though I knew not what reason he can have for his Change. Adieu, I am this moment going a Shooting with 18 gentlemen that are come to breakfast with me and are roaring out in next room for me so that I must conclude - tho' not without assuring you, how very sensible I am for all your attentions to me and constant friendship for your very faithful and obediant servant, Bristol
File 0511
Letter 1 October 1776
To - George Marsh Esq. From - Captain Charles Hudson,
Orpheus East River,
New York. Evans,
28 December.
Dear Sir, I was honored with your letter of the 1st of January last, some since ago, and had it been of any consequence to you, I should have without doubt - answered it much soon. The hands of the Captain in this Country are tyed up in regard to the disposal of their prizes, we are not authorised to send them from the Continent, not even to the West India Islands, and we have only as yet one court of Admiralty estabished on this side, which is at Halifax. It is true some of the Captains has sent prizes to England for which they have been reprimanded, and an Order issued to prevent it in future. I have at this time Ten Vessels laying rotting in this port and cannot get them disposed of, as there is no Court of Admiralty fixed, nor no probability of one, though strongly solicited for. O tempores O mores. Would to God that they were under your direction you would soon turn them into Cash, Should I be fortunate enough to take any vessels of consequence in the Winter, and they blown off the coast you may be assured that they will go - to be disposed off by you. The new from this Country you have no doubt from better Authority, than what is in my power to give you, I have commanded in this river since the troops landed on York Island, lays very near to Hells gates (A place so called from the Rapidity of its streams) but Orpheus has not his former influence there, probably from the change of his (Musick?) but I can assure you that he makes the infernal crew of the (Regions?) near it fear him. My best wishes attends yourself and Family and believe me with truth, Your most obliged and most Obediant humble servant.
Charles Hudson (1732 - 1803) H.M.S.Orpheus
1777
file 9936
Burial Dues Parons & Clerk at Gillingham - Miss Marsh 16 August 1777 £4.7.0
file 9937
A Bill for the Burial of - at Gillingham in the Church on Saturday the 16th August 1777 To the Minister - £2/12/0 To the Clark - £1.11.0 For Minister and Clark - £4.3.0 Received in full per me, John Bentley, Clerk Tolling the Bell - £0.4.0 (total) - £4.7.0
File 9954
16 August 1777
Paid of Mr (Pilestes?) Undertaker Two Pounds Ten Shillings for the use of the Poor of Gillingham Parish for Miss Marsh bury here in Silk as a Faculty. John Jenkinson
File 9932 Envelope Bricklayers Bile Messrs Marsh funeral August 16 1777 0.10.6
File 9933
16 August 1777 -
Mr Marsh Bill to William Archer for taking up pavement in Gillingham Church and laying down again over the Grave Workmen and Materials - £0.10.6 Received then the Contents in full. from William Archer.
File 9955
note (year?)
A Bill of the Customary Fees Due to the Minister and Clark for A Burial in Gillingham Church in the County of Kent. One who did not Die in the Parish of Gillingham aforesaid To the Minister the sum of Two pound twelve shilllings. To the Clark the sum of One pound twelve shillings And three pence stamp duty on Burials for George Marsh Jun. Esq. £4.4.7 John Bensted. Clark.
File 0287
Sept 1777
Mr Rymer, the Surgeon Sir, Voltaire, somewher says, -We are to deliver our Sentiments to Men according to their abilities and Principles, and not always according to their Rank and Station." For, says he, if I address a Prince, I first consider the nature of his Heart, and next, the Qualities of his Mind and if I find he is more the Man, than the Prince,I then address myself to Humanity, and not to Dignity. This being my preface, Sir, I beg to unbosom myself in an unreserved (but equally respectful) manner. Your Friendship, Sir, got me the Alderney. I then thought it would be (peau, fecall?) and, that after having been seven years constantly in a State of Aqueus pilgramage, and unnatural Bondage I should once more be able to gratify that laudable principle of patriotic affection and parental correspondence, as well as, in a greater degree, to enjoy that mode of Existence the Deity has pointed out to be the most rational, and the most consistant with the nature of a Human Being - viz. Terra firma. But I am greatly deceived, for the cruize in the North Sea - and must continue so all the Winter, and hence, are banished from the common Lot of Brutes. O Sir, it is terrible for a man of feeling and a little Education, who knows something of the Heart of Man, and the frailties and vanities of Human Nature to be forced, and compelled to waste his days in a State of Riot sensuality, irreligion and ignorance. When I think of all this, Sir, I often wish to seize the Plough and greatly independant live, or to guard a Flock of sheep and devote my soul to that innocent rural philosophy which alone can yeild true happiness and contentment. This, you will say, Sir, is a cynical sentiment. I cannot help it, for I am singular in some opinions. Your great and unreserved Friendship to me the other day, I shall never forget, and if the Affair of Surgeon of Marines does not take place I shall never the less look upon myself to be under the same obligation to you. I shall always be endeavouring to quite the sea-life - and if nothing more eligible occurred, I could like to travel with some young Gentlemen, as I understand some foreign Languages. In the meantime, if you could remove me into some Ship just commissioned near London that I might be in readiness for a preferable situation (if I must go abroad) it will much oblige. Sir, Your most humble servant. James Rymer. Yarmouth, 23 September 1777
File 0522 Letter 8 October 1777 From - James Ryme, Yarmouth, 8th October 1777 To George Marsh Esq., Navy Office, London Sir, For reasons of great importance I beg, and entreat, that you would be so kind as to remove me into some New Ship, and, provided she is not destined for the East or West Indies, or Coast of Guinea, I shall bear with it. A Home-Station I like above all things; but Sir, much against my Will, I am Sick. - - of the Alderney and cannot go to sea in her - because of certain individuals. If any thing, in the mean time, should occur more to my wish, it is well; if not - "all for the best." I am Sir, with much regard, Your most obediant humble servant. James Rymer
File 34
Faculty 6th December (?) 1777 for the Vault int Gillingham Church
File 33 -
big page
6th December 1777
Faculty for the Vault in Gillingham Church FREDERICK, by divine providence Archbishop of Canterbury, Primate pf all England and Metropolitan to all Christian People to whom these presents shall or may (come?) and most especially to the Vicar(?) Churchwardens, parishioners and Inhabitants of the parish of Gillingham in the County of Kent and (Deanery?) of Shoreham(?), Greeting in our Lord God evertlasting whereas it hath been alleged before the Worshipful Francis Simpson Doctor of Laws' Surrogate of the Right Worshipful Sir George Hay Knight, Doctor of Said Laws, Dean or Commissary of the (Deanery?) of the ( archies?) London, Shoreham and Croydon the peculiar and immediate Jurisdiction of us and of our Cathedral and Metropolian Church of Christ Canterbury lawfully constituted on the part and behalf of George Marsh Esquire one of the Commissioners of his Majesty's Navy that at a public vestry holden in and for the said parish of Gillingham on the sixth day of November last pursuant to public notice given for that purpose in the said parish church it was unanimously agreed That the said George Marsh should take down two pews situate on the south side of the middle aile near the centre of the said church and build a vault under the same of the dimensions of ten feet in length from the South Cross Aile to the (struod, round?) pillar on the South side and nine feet seven inches in width if the Said Tits(?) and Graves will admit for a Burying place for himself and his ffamily exclusive of all others as by the original order of the said vestry produced and shown to the said Surrogate and now remaining in the Registry of the Deanery of Shoreham(?) doth appear And whereas the said Surrogate having maturely(?) weighed and considered the premises and rightly and duly proceeding there in at the petition of the Proctor of the said George Marsh decree the Vicar, Churchwardens and Parishioners and Inhabitants of the said Parish of Gillingham in special and all others in general having or pretending to have any Right, Tithe or Interest in the premises to be Cited to appear before our Dean or Commissary aforesaid, his Surrogate or some other competent judge in this behalf at a certain competent time and place to show cause if they, any or either of them had or know any why a (sirture?) ffamily or should not be granted to the said George Marsh for taking down the aforesaid two pews situate on the South side of the middle aile near the Centre of the said Parish Church and building a vault under the same of the dimensions of ten foot in length from the South Cross Aile to the (stroud?) pillar on the South side and nine feet seven inches in width if the Land, Tits and Graves will admit and for appropriating and confirming the same as and for a Burying place for himself and ffamily exclusive of all others with (Intimation Inhumation?) that if they, some or one of them do not appear at the time and place and to the effect aforesaid or appearing did not shew good and sufficient cause to the contrary or (crease in paper- - -) the Commissary aforesaid, his Surrogate or some other competent Judge in this behalf did intend to proceed to decree and grant such (Sireur?) or family to the said George Marsh for the purposes and in the manner aforesaid their abscure(?) or rather contumacy any wise Nothwithstanding and Whereas it doth appear by the proceedings remaining in the Registry of the Deanery of Shoreham That the said (Initmation/Inhumation?) was duly read and published in the Parish Church of Gillingham aforesaid on Sunday the twenty third day of December last by the Reverend John Jenkinson (Elect?) Vicar of the said parish and returned into Court on Monday the first instant and the Vicar, Churchwardens, parishioners and Inhabitants of the said parish of Gillingham in special and all others in general having or pretending to have any Right, Tithe or Interest in the premises being at such time publickly called into Court to come and shew cause if they or any or either of them had or knew any such at (Sireur?) or ffamily should not be granted to the said George Marsh for the purposes aforesaid and no person then appearing the Worshipful Francis Simpson, Doctor of Laws, Surrogate of our Dean or Commissary aforesaid at the petition of the proctor of the said George Marsh continued the Certificate of the said In (intimation, inhumation?) to this day And on this Day the said Vicar, Churchwardens, and inhabitants of the said Parish of Gillingham in special and all others in general having or pretending to have any right, Tithe or interest in the premises being again publicly called into our Court to come and shew cause if they, any or either of them, had or have any why a (Sirure?) and ffamily should not be granted to the said George Marsh for the purposes aforesaid and no and no person then appearing the said Worshipful Francis Simpson, Doctor of Laws, Surrogate of the said Right Worshipful George Hay, Knight, Doctor of Laws, our Dean or Commissary aforesaid did at the - - - - of the proctor of the said George Marsh decree a (Sirture?) or ffamily accordingly Justice so requiring Now we the Archbishop aforesaid by virtue of our (priest?) ordinary and and Archispisropal(?) and as far as by the Eccleisastical or Temporal Laws of this Realm (dot?) may or (raw?) do Grant unto the said George Marsh and (Sirture?) or ffamily for taking down the aforesaid two pews situate on the South Side of the Middle Aile near the Centre of the said parish Church and building a vault under the same of the dimensions before set forth if the Land (Tits?) and Graves will admit and for appropriating and confirming(?) the same as and for a Burying place for himself and ffamily exclusive of all others in manner and form as on his behalf has been (payed?) and desired In Witness whereof I have caused the Seal of our Dean or Commissary which (We, I ?) use in this behalf to be affixed to this (presents?) dated the sixth day of December in the year of our Lord One Thousand seven hundred and seventy seven
Abscure - Obscure and abstract at the same time. Contumacy - Stubborn refusal to comply with authority
File 9945
Envelope label
11 Dec 1777
Copy of my letter to the Rev. Mr Jenkinson upon obtaining a Faculty for a Vault in Gillingham Church, together with a copy of my engagement for every Corpse which may hereafter be buried therein. .......................... File 9946 Letter Sir, I have obtained the Faculty which my Brother will present to you to be Registered; and inclosed is the obligation you requested from me. I have desired my Brother to present you with five Guineas for the trouble I have given you on this occasion; and must entreat your acceptance thereof. I am with my compliments and service to Mr Jenkinson and the young Gentlemen. Sir, your most obedient humble servant. George Marsh, London, Navy Office, 11 December 1777 Having obtained a Faculty to build a Vault for a burying place for myeslf and Family in Gillingham Church near Chatham, Kent. I do hereby engage myself and Executors to pay the Minister of the Parish, Two pounds twelve shillings for the burial of every corpse here after there in; provided the person so buried in it, should not be a Parishioner, but if a Parishioner, One pound six Shillings only is to be paid for that purpose. George Marsh
File 9948
Letter to Milbourne Marsh Esquire, Victualling Office, Chatham
Letter
Mr Jenkinson with respectful Compliments to Mr Marsh sends the underwritten for his Inpecting. George Marsh Esq, one of the Commissioners of his Majesty's Navy obtained a Faculty to build a Vault for a burying place for himself and Family exclusive of all others in the Parish Church of Gillingham the Sixth Day of December 1777. This is the manner Mr Jenkinson intends to register the Faculty if Mr Marsh approves of it. Gillingham, 18th December 1777
File 9956
1777
George Marsh Esq.
Marsh agreement the Vicar, Churchwardens, Parishioners and Inhabitants of the Parish of Gillingham in the County of Kent in special and all others in general Stamps for Intimation - £0.3.6 Signing the same - £0.5.6 Sealing - £ 0.2.6 Coach hire to Bow Church - £0.3.6 Paid Dr Bever with Case to move for Faculty - £1.1.0 Paid Registers Bill for Faculty - £4.14.8 Sealing the Faculty - £0.7.8 (total) - £6.17.8
File 9957
Plan of Vault Plan and Section of a Vault in Gillingham Church, Kent, belonging to William Marsh Esq., Scale - ¼ Inch to a Foot.
File 9959
Length - 17 feet Height 8 feet 8 Breadth 7 feet 6 Dimensions of the Vault
1778
On the 22nd April 1778 Mr.Marsh went with the other members of the Navy Board to attend the King during his visitation ofthe Dock Yards at Chatham and Sheerness and on the 28th he proceeded to Portsmouth on the like duty. At that port Mr.Marsh again waited on the King during his early morning inspections and was honored with much conversation with his Majesty on the subjects then under his notice and on naval matters in general.
His Majesty was pleased to say that he was aware of the extent and importance of the duties which Mr.Marsh had to perform as Clerk of the Acts and he perceived that he was well acquainted with every thing relating to the Civil Departments of the Service. About this time Lord Bristol who had on many previous occasions evinced great friendship for (crossed out - Mr.Marsh) and had conferred many obligation on Mr.Marsh offered (crossed out - if he would quite the Navy Board) to procure his appointment to a place connected with the Court of great respectability and of considerabley greater emolument than the Commissionership of the Navy. After giving 24 hours serious consideration to this proposal Mr.Marsh waited on Lord Bristol and very respectfully and gratefully declined his offer; for Mr.Marsh considered that he had now reached that period of life when a man's habits become (finer?) and the engaging in a new line of life and the adoption of other manners in other circles of Society, irksome and difficult, that those which he had hitherto practiced were of the greatest regularity and moderation, that he had ever lived within his Income, and the increase of emolument was therefore no temptation to him and that he should by accepting Lord Bristol's offer risk what was of far greater value to him than money viz., his tranquility and happiness. Mr.Marsh says in his Diary on this subject "I had great difficulty ot make my Lord Bristol enter into my feelings,as the appointment was one (compared with that I hold) of very little duty and and of (favorable?) the emolument, indeed his Lordship was often after to reproach me in a good humoured manner on the subject."
File 9857 -
4 April 1778
Contract
Know all Man by these presents that I, John Marsh of the town and port of Dover in the County of Kent, Carpenter am held and firmly bound to Sampson Farbrare of the same town and port, Gentleman in the penalty or penal Sum of Four hundred pounds of good and lawfull money of Great Britain to be paid to the said Sampson Farbrare or his certain Attorney, Executors, Administrators, or Assigns for which payment to be well and faithfully made I (binsard?) oblige myselt my Heirs, Executors and Administrators and very of them firmly by these presents (Scales?) with my Seal dated the fourth day of April in the eighteenth year of the Reign of our Soveraign Lord George Third by the grace of God of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King Defender of the Faith and in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy eight (1778) The Condition of this Obligation is such that if the above bounden John Marsh, his heirs, Executors, Administrators or Assigns do and shall will and truly pay or cause to be paid unto the above named Sampson Farbrace, his Executors, Administrators or Assigns the sum of Two hunded pounds with Interest for the same and at the rate of Four pounds for an hundred pounds by the year of good and lawful money of Great Britain at or upon the Fifth day of October next ensuing the date of the Obligation above written - according to and in full performance and discharge of the proviso or condition mentioned in our Indenture of (Tripartite?), Assignment and Confirmation of Mortgage bearing date with these presents made, or mentioned to be made Between (crossed out - the above - - John Marsh of) John Pierce therein named of the first part the above bounden John Marsh of the second part and the above named Sampson Farbrace of the third part. And do also well and truly observe perform fulfill and keep all and singluar the Covenants, Grants, Article, Conditions and Agreements whatsoever which on his and their parts and behalfs are or ought to be Obsered, performed fulfilled and kept Comprizes and mentioned in the said writ to Indenture And that in all things according to the true intent and meaning thereof and of the parties to the same Then this Obligation to be void or else to remain in full force. Sealed and Deliversed, being first duly stamped in the presence of us William. Ashdowne John Reader John Marsh Red was seal, man in profile
File 0537
Letter
28 July 1778
Account of Admiral Keppel's action with the French Fleet, copied by me from a friend's letter. Party running high in the Fleet's and the original destroyed. - William Marsh
The letter was to my dear Father.
"Keppel & Paliser." (Pencil - Rick Howard. 2nd of Dec.)
At Sea - 28 July 1778
Dear Sir, Sorry am I from having the most flattering prospect of taking or destroying every Ship of the Brest Fleet,to inform you that the Efforts of our grand Fleet has been crowned with so little success but as it would be presumption in a Butter and Churchman, to offer his sentiments in an affair so important, I shall leave that to those whose profession it is to judge of these matters and will just only mention what occurred to me of the two Fleets. Upon the 23rd instant in the morning we fell in with the French Fleet about 15 leagues to the Westward of Ushant in a very regular line of Battle ahead to windward and finding we had got between them and their own coast, and impossible to get past us, they kept working to windward so that we could not bring them to action before the 27th and seeing we had at last so far worked up to them as to be able to oblige them to come action, they bore down in the same regular line ahead which they had all along preserved upon our van, keeping to the windward, and proceeded to the rear of such of our ships as were in the line, making a running fight of it, of which our ship had her full share, being the second headmost ship of our line, and the most to windward, and of course bore the fire of about twenty of the French ships in passing along, sometimes of two at a time, and at one time, of the Admiral a three deck ship and two of equal force with our ship. When they had in this manner passed the whole of such of our ships as were in the line, they wore round in the same regular order, and ranged themselves in a line of battle to the Leeward of our Fleet, standing in the same direction prepared to receive us, and continued in that position the remaining part of the day. But such was the Havock they so successfully made of our masts, yards, and rigging of almost every ship they engaged, that though greatly superior as we were in force and no doubt in bravery, we could not renew the attack, but the remainder of the day employed in repairing the damaged rigging of the Fleet, while that of the French had to appearance suffered but very little, and now that most of the ships had refitted their rigging &c., by 6 or 7 in the evening our Admiral no doubt for good reasons did not think proper to renew the battle though to windward, perhaps in belief that the French fleet would wait for him 'till next day, being then from their Manouvres determined to gain us Battle but of this also I am doubtful, as in the night they bore away for Brest. And though not out of sight next morning, our Admiral had no doubt good reasons likewise for not following them, but what these reasons are I am at a loss to know.
I shall only say of Captain R--- and of every man and officer in our ship that I am well satisfied it cannot be exceeded by any of the Fleet. Our losses only two killed and four wounded, the vast number of shot fired at us being aimed at our rigging which suffered greatly with the loss of our Fore-Top-Sail-Yard, but we were in two hours time, ready to renew the combat. I have had no opportunity of hearing the loss of the other ships. Two of the Enemy's line of Battle ship and a Frigate receive so much damage, that they were sent home immediately when the Brush was over. The French Fleet consisted of 25 or 26 Line of Battle ships, many of them of the lowest case,and only two of which number of three deck ships, no match for us but we have had from dear experience aprized of the great advantage of firing at the rigging, more than at the hull. ' Figure to yourself this almost contemptible Fleet, drawn up in fine order of Battle, to the Leeward of our Fleet so superior in force, yet rendered from this method of directing their shot incapable of engaging them, and then judge. This engagement if I may call it one happened 24 leagues Westward of Ushant. Please tolet me know if this reaches you, as it goes with the Admiral's Dispatches. I am &c &c (Diagram of fleet battle lines)
File 0514
Letter
21 December 1778
Doctor Andrews on of the Jupiter's Account of her engagement.
To - George Marsh Esq., Commissioner of the Navy,
Navy Office,
London
From - Dr Anderson,
H.M.S. Jupiter
Dear Sir,
Please to give my leave by the opportunity of the Guadelupe's passing the Lisbon convoy home (which we, with the Romney, Pelican, Hussar and Medea wait for the opposite Fleet's coming out) to tell you something relative to the Jupiter as we dare say you may have heard of her. We sailed from Plymouth Sound in company with the Medea on the 10th October. The Medea left us on the evening of the 12th. We fell in next morning off Brest a French 74 and frigate who gave us chase. The morning following we saw 12 sail of the French Fleet, two of them gave us chase. On the 19th we saw two large ships, one frigate and 2 small vessels, one of the larger of whom bore down upon us, we edged away to draw him off from the others and gave him battle. We played around them in the night. In the morning the Medea by chance found us off Cape Ferat. We got sight of our opponent soon after, the weather clearing up, and made sail towards her. It was evening before we got up with her, very near the land. She stretched off and gave us a broad side, which we returned. The Medea did the same and sheered off. We saw nothing more of her for some time. We engaged the enemy within musket shot for an hour and quarter at (best, dusk?) after the Medea left us, broadside to broadside, tillthe Enemy found us so serious that he thought it proper to back his mizen topsail and take his ship out of our fire. We endeavoured to back also, but lo! our sails and cordage were so cut and destroyed, we had not the power; not a brace standing. This engagement was carried out in the dark. Mr.Roberts the Master, Mr.Law midshipman died of their wounds. Soon after Mr.Roberts received eleven wounds. Two privates were killed in the action, and (two?) more died a few days after, and about six more wounded. I had but four capital operations to perform. We were three days in getting up new sails and new cordage, and topmasts and some yards. Our lower masts are all wounded. We have some shot lodged in the hull, through the copper. About a week after we had repaired, the Medea again joined us and informed us she had been in at Lisbon to take in ballast, finding her crank upon firing her broadside against the enemy, in so much that the guns getting loose, one of them ran over one of the men and killed him. We kept the seas till the term of our Cruize (to wit the 20th November) was expired. We saw of Cape (ostr?) - - - gal in the mean time no prize, only retook the Concord a (snew?) from London and Lisbon, taken by a (Rebel?) privateer, the Bennington. Upon our arrival in Lisbon we were informed by an Irish gentleman in the Spanish Service that he was a Corunna when the Tristan of 64 guns our opponent arrived in a shattered condition five days after our engagment, who told us that he had been on board the Tristan and spoke with the Captain who informed him that he had 14 killed and 29 wounded. He himself received a would in the forearm by a musket ball, by which he was obliged to have the arm amputated. That the Captain took the Jupiter for a 60 and said of the frigate had only lain by, he would not have thought it any dishonour to have struck to his Ships. By English prisoners on board of her (for the two small vessels we saw the evening before were prizes to the Tristan and St.Michal of 60 guns) we learnt that the Tristan's backing a Stern was to get out of our firing. That the Captain of her being wounded early in the engagement, she was fought by the second Captain that all the officers left the Quarter Deck, and a man was called to stand by the Colours. That if we could have backed and given one broadside more she would have struck. Captain Reynolds is adored at Lisbon. An inquiry has been made on board the Medea respecting Captain Montague's conduct. The Captainswho were there give out that it appeared to them the Medea's crew would not fight. We have been beating off opposite for ten days, waiting for 20 sail ready to come out from thence, but prevented by the Freshes over the bar. Captain Reynholds has intelligence of the Tristan, St.Michael, a frigate and an American Privateer of 26 guns being out after us, he has therefore thought proper to despatch the Guadalupe with the Lisbon Convoy to England and retain - - - and to wait the coming out of hte opposite fleet. The masters of the Lisbon Ships having represented that their cargoes are spoiling. We expect (a - rip in paper) brush, our men are anxious for it. Captain (rip in paper) is exceedingly beloved by all of them. Be kind enough to excuse my troubling you with this tedious epistle, but it has been a concern to us, and an affair much canvassed I beg my best wishes towards your and Mrs Marsh's and family's happiness, and am dear sir, Your affectionate friend and obliged humber servant. (Pat?) Anderson. My kind respects to Messrs Marsh and Creed.
1779
File 0525
Letter 22 April 1779
From Mr. Rymer
Sir,
In writing to a friend, a Patron,m an open heart, a grateful mind will be unguarded in expression. In the present case, Sir, I am addressing myself to one who will take no advantage of the foibles of human nature; wherefore I will disclose myself without reservce. It is a delicate an unpleasing task to write concerning one's self. I had the happiness to meet you in the street. You stopt, you spoke to a poor Surgeon of a Man-of-War with all that frankness, that dignity of affability and friendship which ennobles man and renders him the object of universal respect, love and veneration. You said, what are you doing in Town. How do you like your ship? I was not willing to detain you. Neither was I prepared then to answer, at (Paige?) questions, which although accidental, touched me so very sensibly. Having been on board five months, my principal motive in coming to Town was to enjoy the blesssings of natural liberty for the preservation of health and to publish a few thoughts I wrote on board to drive away care and occupy hours which without employment, would have been to me, hours of melancholy. Nature has given me an activity of mind, a restlessness of disposition, that I must be doing something. My greatest misfortune is, I cannot reconcile myself to a Ship notwithstanding I am happy with every one. Even my Captain, who is rather a strange man., He counts my company, he professes regard - - - need middle bit my company - - ? Few young men in my line have been more fortunate than myself. And it is with gratitude I can say that all I enjoy is the result of your voluntary friendship, very unmerited on my part, excepting that I shall always retain a proper sense of the obligation. What affects me most is reflexion upon futurity when I consider to what trifling purpose I am wasting the precious hours of Existence with little happiness, little enjoyment and that all I can expect in some years is £40 or £50 half pay. Every situation in life has its cares, its troubles, but the very nature of a Man-of-War is misery be a man so ill advantaged to it as I am. Yet thank God I have a natural cheerfulness which supports me. What I wish for, is, to settle myself among mankind as a member of society, an Inhabitant of the Earth. My ambition, as to money, is easily satisfied, and had but half my Income on shore I should be richer, I should be happy, I should have no idle, no melancholy - - If I had - - Minister, I would go and select for some small place under Government. Pardon me for having thus intruded upon your patience with a freedom which may be unbecoming and which I hope will not offend. I am, Worthy Sir, with respect and regard, your most humble and obliged servant. James Rymer.
File 0531
Qualification for a Pensioner in the Charter House Qualifications of a Pensioner of the Charter House.
He must be fifty Years of Age, a protestant, a Bachelor or Widower and well attached to the present Constitution, and must not enjoy an income of upwards £24 per Annum. If he has been hurt in the Wars, he may come into the House at 40 years of age. When admitted, he has his Chamber furnished, his Diet and £14 per annum paid Quarterly. If found in Physic, Surgery, and attendant on, when sick, and if he dies, is buried by the House. Is allowed the Liberty of going into the Country every year for two months to see his friends. The Duty required is to visit Chapel at Morning and afternoon service and to attend the Manciple of Market in their turns about two weeks in the year. At his admission must bring two pair of Sheets, or the House will find them, to be repaid out of the 1st Two Quarters.
File 9854
Envelope - To Commissioner Marsh,
Navy Office.
London
April (and May) 1779
Mr Rymer
File 9855
Worthy Sir,
Being superseded from this ship by the Board,and the state of my health pointing out to me the necessity of declining at present to go to sea, I be leave to say that I have no - -of subsistence in the Service but by resting my future fate on your Friendship. I have this consolation, Sir, no one can charge me with Vice, with profligacy, with disrespect or negligence although I am thus forced to quit my Ship; yet the World may think otherwise. I hurts myself. Censure and Scandal are ever bus. It may appear a Plot upon my Name and injure my Character. I am sorry to trouble you; but, Sir, if you could procure my any little place in my own line at Home, I should be happy and grateful - any Place requiring a Person who speaks and writes the French language. I have a poor Mother to maintain - which distresses me beyond all description that I can no longer be of any Service to her. I am, Worthy Sir, your ever grateful and most humble servant. James Rymer Conquestador 24th August 1779 (James Rymer 1750 - 1822 - Naval Surgeon - Fell out with the commanding officer. Wrote a scurrilous pamphlet under the tile "Tranplantation, or Poor Crocus pluckt up by the Root", 1779) but carried on in the Navy.)
File 0266
Letter - to - George Marsh Esq.,
Navy Office,
London
from -
Captain Gilchrist, his Daughter's marriage to Lord Cochrane, father of the famous Lord Dundonald.
Dear George,
I wrote you the week before last and intended to have mentioned an event that was likely to happen but Mrs Gilchrist heart failed her, however, well knowing you sincere friendship for us and ours and as the day is now fix't to fullfil as Brother Willie tells me Mrs Marsh's prophecie she is set down with tears in her eyes to tell you we are in one sense to loss one of our dear Girls in a few days and I really don't know what I shall do without her as she is truly a fine sweet Girl, yet can have no objection as I hope its for her good to be joined for life to so good and worthie a young man as Lord Cochrane is who I look upon as are none such in this deprived age being certainly possest of ever amiable quality and I flatter myself she is possest of every disposition capable of making a man happy. Its my youngest daughter Annie, who by way of addition to her goodness every body reakons handsome. His Lordships good work is turning out to good acount. They are to be married here Munday next week, Culross Abbey which is his house near 40 miles from this. She is not to leave us for some weeks, the parliament being disolved has given a great turn to the mad work that was going on here as I supose it has done with you. Mrs Gilchrist and the Girls goes to Edinburgh tomorrow to get some things for Annie is very (Basic?) with one thing and other and begs you'll forgive her for this odd scrall and that you will believe both her and me, Mrs Marshs & My Dear Commissioner, your most faithfully Gilchrist. Annsfield, set. 10th. 1779
File 9950
Letter
George Marsh Esq.,
Navy Office.
File 9951
letter contents
Sir,
I am desired by my Father to inform you, that you may erect a Monument to your Daughter's Memory in Gillingham Church. My Father would have wrote himself but is not well. Sir, I am, your most obedient humble servant. L Jenkinson. 411 opposite Adelphi Buildings, Strand, 10th October 1779 My Father and Mother desire their respectful to you and Mrs Marsh
File 0274
- 1784 at latest ?
M.Dodd
The enclosed is my dear Mother's hand writing - William Marsh
On a late Forgery. Mr. Bolton. Mr Editor, Every day's experience ought more and more to convince the World, that happiness in human life, depends more on small Virtues, than on Splendid qualities: Lord Chestefield recommended to his son les petites maniers, to attend to, as of the utmost use in the commerce of life; and with equal justice we may establish it as a rule, that without several negative qualities of no great account and the most exulted (stretch,streek?) of human parts will be of little use. The Virtue which a late transation points in a distinguished view, is economy without this it is of very little use for a man to preach as nice as Dr.Dodd speak like Mr.Burks, fight like a Howe, or plead like a Dunning, or a Mansfield. Great talents are in general applicable only to great occasions, - but the quiet, mild, and lighter Virtues a currency at hand apon every occasion; friend to be depended on at every turn. Let mankind then who would wish their children happy, rather then great, give them (Preas?) and habits, which will befriend them in the common transactions of the day; - of these none are more valuable then economy. One of the worst effects of that great wealth, which flourishing manufacturers and an extensive commerce bring into a country, is the prevalence of extravagance luxury is but another word for a rapid consumption and as the Prince's revenue in all modern States depends on that consumption monarchs are in general ready enough to encourage it. Courts are the great scenes ofit. Capitals are full of it; hence those Characters and professions, which in a country retirement are frugal and modest, become in the Vortex of a great city, like the surrounding particles which whirl them about. Happy is the man who can stem the motion - who in a luxurious age can be prudent, - and in an extravagant capital - frugal.
1783
File 0510
In 1783 He formed a plan to which the following is the heads for raising Landmen for His Majesty's Service, upon any sudden War, or equipment of a large Fleet, which would in a great degree prevent pressing.Viz. It is said there are about Ten Thousand Parishes in England and taking one parish with another, four young unmarried Men between the ages of 15 and 25 might be soon raised which make Forty thousand Men and those added to 30,000 Seamen always borne even in the time of Peace with the like number of Seaman that may be raised from our own private Trade would amount together to 100,000 Men and was a ship whose compliment is 600 to have 200 of these Landmen added to 400 Seamen, she would be completely Manned at her first equipment and they would soon become useful sailors. Upon raising of these Landmen Certificates should be produced of their age and that they have no disease or infirmity that would render them unusable They should be properly cleansed and furnished with necessary Slop Cloaths before they are draugthed off on board the Fleet, the amount of which, should be charged against their growing wages. (George Marsh papers)
1784
File 9944
Note
The 9th day of April 1784
Wife of George Marsh Esquire of London was Buried at Gillingham, the County of Kent in a Vault in the Church. Burial Dues to the Parson the Sum of Two Pounds and Twelve Shillings . To the Clark the sum of One Pound and twelve Shillings and Burial and Receipt, Stamps, Seven pence £4.4.7 Received in Full per me, John Bensted, Clerk
file 9938
9 April 1784
By Order of Mr George Kirby Dr to John Witheridge To 8 Bearers Habbits - 0.12.0 Rec. the Contents John Witheridge
file 9935
9 April 1784
George Marsh Esq., to Sam Nicholson
Dr(?) Taking up and relaying stone of Vault in Gillingham Church for the burial of Mrs Marsh To (hods?) of Morter - £0.1.4 2 Bricklayers 1½ day each - £0.8.0 2 Labourers 1½ day each - £0.5.6 (total) - £0.14.10 14th April - Received the Conents for the use of my Father's (time?) Ann Nicholson
file 9939 envelope 19 April 1784 Gotty's receipt for the expenses in burying my wife together with (2ND?) Mr Kirby received the whole expence £59.4.0 (crossed out - 57.19.10)
file 9940
Dr. to William Gotty George Marsh Esquire To the Funeral of Mrs Ann Marsh interred in a Vault at Gillingham Church, April 6th 1784 for a Stout Elm Coffin with a Silk Quilted Lining, Pillow and Ruffeling, a Stout Lead Coffin there with - £7,7,0 for a fine Crass Quilted matters and Bran pillow - £0.12.0 for a 1in & ½ Oak Coffin with Lids (San'd) on the Curve and the Bottom & Lid in one badth to Receive the above Coffin Covered with the Best Black Cloth Ornamented with 2 (kows?) of the bset Black (Cas'd ?) Nails and a (gw?) of Large Laed ovel chas'd handles and a (Duble?) Chas'd Lead Plate inscription Cat. dey(?) - £7.7.0 for the Use of a Large State Velvett Pall - £0.10.0 for the Use of a Lid of Black Feathers - £1.0.0 For a man to Carry in Possession 2 Days - £0.16.0 for use of hatband and Gloves for ditto - £0.3.6 for 2 men on horse back as Portters 2 Days with Silk - Scarfe & hatbands at 12 per day & 2 pair Gloves for ditto - £1.6.0 for 2 horses for ditto 2 days at 9 per day - £0.18.0 for 4 Gentlemen Crass hatbands - £1.0.0 for 4 pair of Gentlemen plane Kid Gloves at 2/3 - £0.9.0 for the Use of 4 Gentlemen Cloks - £0.6.0 for 3 Crass hatbands for Servants - £0.15.0 for 3 pair of Best Lamb gloves for ditto - £0.4.6 (total) - £22.8.0 ............... next page................ Brought up - £22.8.0 for 1 Rich Armerzeen Scarf for the Minister 3 yard p t 12s - £2.2.0 for 1 pair of (Lasd?) Kid Gloves for ditto - £0.5.0 for 1 masite Silk hatband for ditto 2 yard ¼ at 5/8 - £0.13.0 for 1 (mode?) Silk hatband for Clark 7&1 per Red Gloves to ditto. 4/3 - £0.9.3 for 2 (mode?) Silk hatband for Self & Son - £0.14.0 for 2 pair of Gloves for ditto - £0.4.6 for 2 horses 2 Days for ditto at 9s per day - £0.18.0 for hurst and Six horses 2 days - £4.16.0 for hurst Velvets & horse ditto - £1.0.0 for the Sets of Black Feathers for hurst & Six horses - £2.10.0 for the use of 1 Clok and 2 hatbands for hurstman - £0.8.0 for 2 paris of Gloves for hurstman - £0.2.0 for 8 Bearers with (Cass?) and trunchers in Possession over heath - £1.4.0 for 8 pairs of Lamb for ditto - £0.8.0 for 1 morning Clok and Six horses 2 days - £4.16.0 for Use of 1 Cloke and ten hatbands for Cochman 2 days - £0.8.0 for 2 pair Gloves for Cochman - £0.2.0 for 2 (lach payes?) in Possestion over the heath with hatbands and gloves - £0.11.0 Paid at Northfleet for Gentlemen and attendance breakfast and coming back - £0.14.8 Paid fees at Gilingham £4.4.7 &c to the Ease of the poor at ditto 2.10.2 Bills - £6.14.9 Paid at the Crown at Rochester 2 Days £1.16.4 and 5 stable horses £2.10.9 - s14 - £2.10.9 Paid 2 turnpikes for 2 Setts and 5 stable horses - £0.11.8 Paid Diner at Shooters Hill for attendance and horses - 9s. - £0.11.0 Minister and Clark at Lewisham - £1.11.6 (total) - £56.19.1
1785
File 9934
Envelope April 1785 (?)
Mr Kirby - paid for my wife funeral £2.11.0
File 9800.
Memorandum
No Man up on Earth has more reason to be truly thankful to God Almighty than I have, and I hope ever to show my sense therof by my actions, and tho' it may be impossible to pass through Life without Sin, it is very possible in the general (part?) of our conduct, so to govern ourselves in a great degree agreeably to the understanding providence has blessed us all with, of distinguishing when we act as we oughtto do, and so on the contrary;and our inward satisfaction or uneasyness is always proportioned thereto. And altho' I have not passed my life hitherto without trouble and great uneasyness at tmes, yet so slight has my portion thereof been, by comparison to others, that perhaps it has been only sufficient to remind me of my mortal State. So that I most heartily and dayly return thanks to god, for every Blessing he has been graciously pleased to bestow on me to this 63 year of my age. George Marsh. My worthy friend the Reverend Henry Swann having been in a most helpless, speechless melancholy state of mind near three months, was brought to London for Dr Monro's advice, but he would take no medicine, and as I didnot choose that force should be useed with him or that he should be sent to one of his houses to lodge and board, I brought him to my house at Blackheath the 22 December 1785, as he is one of the best men that ever existed in the most extensive meaning of the word; who is a dayly proof to me what poor helpless mortals we are, and is a proper though humiliating example of the insignificancy of Man, and a good lesson for the great and proud. G.M.
1786
File 0371
27 January 1786
O Lord God, who knowest the inmost secrets of all hearts, receive I beg and beseech thee my most humble and unfeigned thanks for the particular mercies and Blessings thou hast been graciously pleased to confer on me to this * 27 January 1786; and if from the imperfections of my nature, and not the disobedience of my heart, I have not lived without Sin, but in many respects contrary to they commandments; yet as this has originated from passions implanted in my nature, and has not hardened my heart against thee, they Laws; or my fellow creatures; nor arose from a fixed determination of disobedience to they Blessed Will; I hope for, and most earnestly implore they forgiveness in whatever I have deviated from thy divine Ordinance; and that thou will be graciously pleased, out of thy great goodness and compassion to lead me back again to Thee. Receive also O Lord, my grateful thanks for thy Blessed guidance in my conduct through Life, and for thy support under such troubles and afflictions of Mind and Body, as thou hast Judged proper to inflict on me (which indeed have been very few and small, in comparison to what other Men have suffered) and have no doubt been necessary: as those which have affected my mind are proper lessons for humility and meekness, and my Bodyly infirmities are convincing proofs to me that in the hightest health, upon any sudden disorder, I have a great tendency to decay and putrefication and is sufficient barrier against vanity and Price. Thou knowest also that my heart is full of gratitude for they guidiance under the temptations of the Prosperity and Wealth thou hast been pleased to bestow on me, and hast blessed me with sense sufficient to avoid the many Snares and Miseries they too often lead to: and in trouble thou hast comforted me, with the reconciliating reflection that I am totally inable to Judge what is best for me. Hast guided me to hsun all kind of ambition, Pride, or destructive pleasure, and dissatisfaction; and to endeavour to act as nearly as possible for a human creature to do, with respect to others, as I wish them to act by me; with strict Justice, the utmost compassion, humanity and Philanthropy; having as thou well knowest always had very great pleasure in being instrumented in assisting, giving comfort, rendering kind Offices, and doing my utmost to make all those happy, by very friendly act, who I have known to be worthy. Thou hast moreover blessed me with good health and a chearful mind, by leading me to pursue regularity and proper exercise for the health of my body, and by constant employment to preserve my mind in due Temper, and so scrupulous an obedience as possible to thy Divine Commands. For all these blessings I most earnestly privately, and dayly return thee thanks from the bottom of my heart, and pray for the continuance of them to me, and that I may ever conduct myself, to be as deserving thereof, as possible; with which must necessarily be united, peace of mind and that transcendant happiness, my own approbation; with a conscience as void of offence to Thee, and man, as possible. With this blessed Treasure, I wish and pray to be constantly prepared for my final dissolution, and to end my mortal Life, as composedly and as chearfully as I have passed through it; and by they great unbounded goodness and mercy, I have the strongest hopes of being translated into Life Eternal. George Marsh
- I am this day 63 years of age.
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq.
A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
On the 29th August 1786 the Navy Office was removed from Crutches Friars to the present site in Somerset House. This removal made no change in Mr.Marsh's Duties or in the general routine of the official business.
1787
File 0306
accounts William Marsh Esq.,
1787 - Bot (Bought) of S. Elmer 3 September 1787 - A picture of Fox and Pheasant framed - £21.0.0 Ditto of Fish - £6.6.0 Ditto of Partridges - £6.6.0 23. September 1787 - Proof print of Mrs Siddons - £2.2.0 Woodcocks - £6.6.0 Melon &c - £6.6.0 Dutch piece by Molinear - £3.3.0 February 1788. Ditto by Oslade - £5.5.0 a Hare in her Seat, and Spaniel - £15.15.0 Packing - Case and packing - £0.12.6 (total) - £73.1.6
1788
File 0303
letter
16th May 1788
Stephen Elmer - £78.10.3 To - William Marsh Esq., No.49 Berners Street, Oxford Road, London (postmark - Farnham) Farnham,
Thursday, February 28th 1788.
Sir, I am very happy in having at last finished your picture of the Hare and Spaniel, which from illness, a great part of the time since, I had the pleasure of seeing you at Farnham, I have not been capable of compleating till within a few days past. If any part of the picture should not meet your entire approbation, I beg, Sir, you will do me the favour to point out the faults, and I shall be extremely glad to make any alterations may be required. I have seen all the pictures &c., you did me the honour to purchase carefully pack'd in a Case, and sent by the Waggon today with the Carriers promise it shall be delivered at your house at Knightsbridge tomorrow afternoon. I hope these pictures will be received safe, any Dust they may collect in carriage may be removed with a soft cloth. I have, Sir, taken the liberty of sending two pictures for my friend Mr Walker, whom I shall inform by Letter of the time the Case of pictures will be at Knightsbridge, possibly Mr Walker may take the trouble to direct in unpacking that no damage may happen to them. You have often expressed a desire I would make out my Bill, I therefore presume to inclose it, and beg Sir, the honour of payment of it to my Nephew R.Elmer, No.76 Queen Street, Cheapside, at any convenient time of your sending into the City. I am, Sir, with greatest Gratitude and Respect, Your most obedient humble servant. Stephen Elmer.
1789
File 9829
Memorandums,
Observations and Appointments in January 1789
Monday 19 January 1789 - At the Board
Tuesday 20 January 1789 - Ditto. Sent the bank (Warrant?) to Mr Creed by Tom 40.10.0 Wednesday 21 January 1789 - Ditto. Received and paid off Creed 17.0.10 for Sir Alexander Chambers.
Thursday 22 January 1789 - Ditto
Friday 23 January 1789 - Ditto. (James?) Cuthbert came to my house.
Saturday 24 January 1789 - At home. Alex' Cuthbert, his son George, James Cuthbert, Mr James Morrison, his son and three daughters dined with me.
Sunday 25 January 1789 - Not at Church. Most of the above company dined with me.
File 9830
Print diary page for accounts.
Other side of previous? January, 1st Month, has xxxi Day. (Week 3)
Took James Grant for a household servant at 16.16.0 per annum
It began to rain for the first time since 3 October last.
File 0370
2 March 1789
Memorandum
My most worthy friend the Rev. Mr.Swann died whose benign disposition and amiable gentleness of manners endeared him to all his Friends and acquaintance. Philanthropy was seated in his Heart, and benevolence spontaneously flowed from the God-like source! In the discharge of his public duty though frequent indisposition deprived him of full energy, yet the native purity, and genuine Piety that accompanied it captivated the Hearts and rivetted the attention of his Auditors. In him were United the primitive Christian implicity, the accomplishments of a Scholar, and the refinement of true gentility. He was as Pope described Gay, "Of manners gentle, of affections mild. In wit a man, simplicity a child." In short take him all in all, is like is very rarely to be found. A Clergyman's person should be engaging, his countenance open and expressive, indicating a benevolent Heart. He should possess a clear, distinct audible voice, entirely divested of discordant uncouth tones; his pronunciation should be correct; his modulation, emphasis and cadence judiscious. An uniform exemplary observance of religion and morality, should be manifest in all his Actions. His behaviour should be affable and condescending. And to complete his Character, the graceful politeness of a Gentleman is necessary for supporting the dignity of his profession. All this Mr.Swann was.
File 9821
Printed book page blah blah blah Considerations on the Capital Stock of the Corporation of the Governor and Company of the Bank of England The charter of the corporation of the governor and company of the Bank of England was founded on an act of the 5th and 6th of William and Mary The original fund of the Corporation, which was £3,200.000 Was created by cancelling exchequer bills - 500,000 By purchase of the South-Sea company - 4,000,000 By annuities of the lottery of 1714 - 1,250,000 Ditto, charged on the duty on coals - 1,750,000 Ditto, charged on licences for Spirituous liquors in 1746 -986,800 (Total) £11,686,800 The capital stock in the year 1781, 10,780,000 Eight per cent, call in that year 862,400 (Total) £11,642,400 So that the capital of the Bank is now £11,642400l. which according to the resolution of the last general court, pays a dividend of seven per cent, amounting to £814,968, per annum of which sum government pays £354,604l. per annum and the remainder is provided for out of the profits of the company's trade. Profits The profits arise from savings, in the management of the company's affairs, out of the allowance made them by the government. From the interest of different public sercurities belonging to the company. From the accommodation they afford to government by loans on exchequer bills, &c. From the assistance they give to trade, by discounting bankers and merchants paper. And from the purchases made, during the war, of navy and victualling bills, at a large discount, which were subscribed into five per cents considerably under par, and may now be valued at a premium. continues - - - - Dividends
File 9822 - above continues The Call - The call, in 1781, was evidently made with a view to enlarge the powers of the Bank, in order to effect these great purposes. The capital of the Bank was then encreased for public accommodation, and the profits of the proprietors have been proportioned to that additional subscription. The Price of Bank Stock Unequal to its Value It has long been a custom, with brokers and jobbers in the alley, to estimate the value of this capital,by the price of Reduced Annuities, for no other reason, that has ever been assigned, than that the dividends on Bank Stock and these Annuities are payable at nearly the same periods. If, say they, Reduced Annuities at 3 per cent are valued at 75, Bank Stock, at 7 per cent, may be estimated at 175, and so in proportion to any other given price. Thus attempting to compare,where no comparison exists, and to estimate a defiance of calculation. The interest on these annuities can never be expected to encrease, while the dividend on Bank Stock is subject and intitled to an advance every two or three years. The interest of these annuities depends entirely on public credit; while Bank Stock in addition to its dependence upon the general credit of the country, has a distrinct, and immediate, and a superior, credit of its own. The Superor Reccommendations of Bank Stock. - - - Credit and Resources - - -
File 9823
book continues
Some Reason for this Neglect - - - - Concluding Remarks When it is considered that between the years 1776 and 1783, the national debt was encreased to the amount of one hundred and twenty millions. And that this additional debt was nearly equal to all that had been borrowed from the reign of William and Mary to that period - When it is considered that the Bank of England supported this mighty mass, and provided for every public exigency, by taking a prodigious proportion of this additional debt on loan, and supporting the whole of it by its immediate credit and resources, it cannot be deemed either a visionary or an extravagant calculation to infer, that, during the war The Income of the Bank has been Doubled. The Bank could not uphold so many millions without acquiring many millions, and therefore the proprietors, when they accepted the late encrease of dividend with commendations on the good management of the directors, had a view to, and an expectation of, a farther distribution of those profits, which it is well known still remain behind. -- - =-----------------------------------
File 9824
Act for Securing the Rights of Voters at Elections in England and Wales (28 Geo. III. c. 36)
By this act registers of all the freeholders are to be made, and the King's printer is to provide such a number as the clerks of the peace for each county, riding &c, shall require, and transmit them to those clerks by or befor March 5, 1789. The clerk of the peace is to deliver a register to each register-keeper before April 6, 1789. Each parish is to have a register-keeper, who is to be the collector of the land-tax. Every freeholder has a right to be enrolled in the register for the parish where his estate, or part thereof, shall lie; and register-keepers, if qualified, may register themselves. - - - continues
1790
File 9930 -
Image - design for a monument Ft - In 7" 5 high 4" 2 wide Nil Labore Sine
File 9931
Inscription for above monument To the Memory of Anne, daughter of George Marsh of Blackheath Esq., who departed who departed this life the 11th of August 1777 in the 18 year of her age. Farewell dear Maid of modest worth possest with virtue, sense and genious, richly blest. Farewell my Child, till happier times arrive. When thy fair form shall from the dust revive If worthy Judg'd: thyy Joyful Father than, To his fond Breast shall clasp his Child again. Anne, Wife of George Marsh Esq., and Mother of the above named Anne, died the 1st of April 1784, aged 63 years. George Marsh Junior Esq., Proctor in Commons, son of the afore-mentioned George and Anne Marsh, died the 14th of July 1790 in the 41st year of his Age.
1790
File 0302 -
1790 ? design for memorial Anne, daughter of George Marsh of Blackheath Esq., departed this Life, the 30th of August 1777 in the 18th Year of her Age. Farewell dear Maid, of modest worth possest With virtue, sense, and genius, richly blest. Farewell my Child, till happier times arrive; When thy fair form, shall from the dust revive, If worthy Judg'd thy Joyful Father then, To his fond Breast, shall clasp his Child again. Anne Wife of George Marsh Esq., and Mother of the above named Anne died the 1st of April 1784 Aged 63 Years George Marsh junior Esq., Proctor in Doctors Commons son of the above mentioned George and Anne Marsh, died the 14ht of July 1790 inthe 41st Year of his Age.
1792
Calcutta Gazette Thursday 26 April 1792
Just published at the Honourable Company's Press,
Price on Fine English Paper, Sicca Rupees Twelve and on Patna, Eight Rupees.
In the Press - And speedily will be published, The Mysorean Revenue Regulations translated by Burrish Crisp Esq., from the Original Persian under the Seal of Tippoo Sultaun, in the possession of Colonel John Murray.
It is intended that the proceeds of the sale of this Work, after defraying the expence of printing, shall be equally divided between the Lower School of the Military Orphans and the Free School. These Regulations of the Sultaun of Mysore, for which the Public are indebted to the Genteman who took early measures for procuring them, and to the able Translation, are highly descriptive of energy and arrangement, in the Sultaun's Administration. They relate, chiefly, to his Revenue Department; but there are, amongst them, some Moral and Political Ordnanaces; and, it is believed, that this Code, of the practical Rules of an existing Mahomedan State, will, upon the whole, be found to contain the most authentic and accurate delineation, that has yet appeared, of the genuine principles of Maussulman Government, in the management of its Territories. The orginal manuscript was procured in the Coimbetore Campaign.
File 058
Copy of a Letter to The Right Honorable William Pitt Esq., 26 September 1792
To the Right Honorable William Pitt Esq., Chancellor of His Majesty's Exchequer.
Sir,
I take the liberty to address you, in consequence of Sir Charles Bunbury having in the last Sessions of Parliament, deferred his intended bill for the Provision and more effectual disposal of Convicts. Having had much conversation with Sir Charles on the subject of this Bill, I am induced to ask permission to communicate a plan for your consideration; for the employing Convicts generally, or of certain descriptions in England. I have good reason to presume upon the probability of their being made of great Public utility andthe expense now attending them be done away with advantage; their labor may be applied to render prodigious gain upon an article which almost every Manufacturer in this Kingdom is more or less dependant, as well the object itself being very principally in demand by Government, and commercial necessity, but to all which purposes an existing Monopoly is extremely injurious. It may be perfectly and permanently prevented. If further information upon this business meets your desire and attendion, I will endeavour to make the communication as explicit as possible, and in any manner the most agreeable to Yourself. Waiting the honour of your commands, I submit myself, With great esteem and respect, Your most obedient humble servant, Thomas English. Blackheath 26th September 1792
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Copy of the Memoir to the Right Honorable William Pitt Esq,. 21st October 1792
Copy
To the Right Honourable William Pitt Esq,
Chancellor of His Majesty's Excequer &c. &c.
Sir,
It is in reliance that my address to You of the 26th of last month will account for my intruding upon you again. The proposed establishment for Convicts which I now lay before you, I hope will appear sufficiently connected to demonstrate itself, by pointing out the means which promises success in its execution as well combining circumstances of utility. I have promised myself, that when consider the importance of the matter offered, you will find no cause for prejudice against it, nor consider itin the Name or resemblance of a vague Project. I request with respect, your examination to the good inferences deducible from the proposition, which in the first instance has in design. "A more effectual mode of employing Criminals than punishing by confinement to labor in the Hulks at Woolwich, as well to lesson the expensive transportation ofthem to New Holland. To rest the princile and solidity of the plan proposed, is to view the practical effect and experience of many ages in various Countries. The punishment sentenced uon Criminals in the mineral countries upon the Continent is invariably to employ them in the Mines,and the production of the mines of those countries are a continual resource of wealth and which constitutes a princepal proportion of their Revenue. There are Copper Mines in this Kingdom, the property of Government invested in Greenwich Hospital, being part of the forfeited Estate of the Earl of Derwentwater and which have been laying neglected for a great length of time, which from good authentic record are known to be as valuable as any of a similar nature in Europe. Four thousand people were formerly employed in these mines, and it is to be remarked that perseverance to incessant labor, alone produced prosperity to their endeavors, for the art of mining in England at that period was not well understood or was the power and application of mechanical philosophy at all known in practice, it is therefore fair to determine, that with the assistance which the Steam Engine now afford in Mining operations, in addition to the value of labor of so many workmen being done away by employing Criminals, would render a gain from these mines of great National consideration; it only wants the disposition to follow the example of what is actually adopted in other countries to derive equal emolument and recompense from the action of those who have forfeited themselves in transgressing against the laws and society. A total seclusion from all intercourse and conversation withe their intimates (who are at liberty) and removing the convicted offenders from the vicinity of London to work in the depths of a remote mine, would in all probability, strike more terror than any punishment that hath hitherto been inflicted, and to heighton the dread of punishment, but more particularly, to obviate the constant succession of return upon the Public after a few years confinement, none should be sent to the but those whose crimes have sentenced them to a long banishment. The advantageous consequences of employing Criminals in this manner are not confined alone to the better security and intention of punishing them, it extends and embraces much more, for on examination it will be found to influence an aid to Government, Manufactures, and Commerce of this Island, and being established so, must be the test of Public approbation. The convicts would no longer support from the public stock. the Mines would not only render a sufficient produce to defray every expence whatever attending them, but would become an immense additional income to Greenwich Hospital, and moderately computing, would furnish the several demands for Copper that is required for the Navy, Mint, and Ordinance, for it must follow that the proportion of Copper that is, or may be wanted in these general consumptions, being furnished distinctly from separate resources which compose the aggregate - - (file 0251) - - - of Copper raised, would in effect become an addition to the quantity or Stock produced by the Country, and from which Manufactures and Commerce draw their supply. Copper has risen in price within a few years nearly thirty percent. The cause may not be essential to be now investigated; it is however sufficiently well known, and incontestibly too apparent in being injurious both to Government and Manufacturers; to the export trade of this Article must be equal to prohibition from the evident and certain consequence, which must attend so exorbitant a rise on a gross material. The exportation of Copper must therefore be abandoned, for it will be impossible to supply a foreign demand, so long as there exists a combination amongst the Mine Adventurers and Smelting Companies, so as to raise the Standard so high as 90. At present they are 100, and it is expected they will be forced much higher. It (is) necessary to observe the situation and importance of the Copper Mines above alluded to. "Henry the eighth granted the Manors of Keswick and Newlands to the Earl of Northumberland, in which Manors were rich Copper mines, and the right of which mines was contended by Queen Elizabeth in the 10th year of her Reign with the Earl of Northumberland, which suit was carried in favor of the Queen on account of the quantity of Silver which was found impregnated with the Ore raised form the mines, it was of course challenged and deemed a Royal Mine." The circumstance of this decree affecting many other private mines, an application was made to Parliament, in consequence an Act was made in the first year of King William and Queen Mary wherein it is enacted. "That no Mine of Copper &c., shall hereafter be adjudged, reputed or taken to be a Mine Royal although Gold and Silver may be extracted out of it" &c. &c. vide Ploweden's Reports. The Manors of Keswick and Newlands came into the family of Radcliff, Earl of Derwentwater and were forfeited in the year 1715 and upon the attainder were settled as a revenue to Greenwich Hospital. The Copper Mines on the Manor of Newlands were then in full working having upwards of four thousand men employed upon them, but from that event were shut and have ever since remained so, it is not a question, that of regaining the existing mine, the old workings being cleared from Water and rubbish will become ample guides to secure the former leads and successfully to pursue new operations. This circumstance altogether differs from new undertakings, which in mining, from the most favorable appearance in the measure of a country is attended with hazard in the discovery sought for. The perfect knowledge which I have in the local advantage of Newland mines, over above the present recital, which I will further explain whenever you think proper; only presuming further on your regard, to add that my practical information for many Years in the various processes in Mining and Smelting Copper Ores, has induced me to submit this statement, at a period which requires, and an opportunity which presents for your power and discernment to act in such manner as may in a great degree balance between the present combination and monopoly existing with opulent speculators, to the detriment of the Consumers of Copper. I am aware that in carrying this design into execution that there may be some difficulties to provide against, but all objections and inconveniences are trivial to the good which may arise. I am also persuaded that you will without hesitation distinguish and immediately determine if this communication has any merit to Your protection, and leaning upon this reliance I solicit your notice having the honour to be, Sir, With the greatest esteem and respect, Your devoted and most obedient Servant, Thomas English. Blackheath, 21st October 1792
1793
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Copy of Letter to Sir Charles Bunbury Bt.
19th February 1793
Copy
19 February 1793
From - Blackheath,
To - Sir Charles Bunbury Bt.
Sir,
Your letter of the 22nd September, upon your return from Cheshire allowing me to communicate to the Chancellor of the Exchequer my sentiments respecting a plan for the employing a part or the whole of the Convicts in the Mines at Keswick in Cumberland, authorised me to propose that measure as one object to be adopted to counteract a system of Monopoly in the Article of Copper,which prevails with singular oppression and detriment to the Manufacturers of this County, and which circumstance I fear cannot effectually be remedied without the interference of the executive powers of Government. You have been pleased to express a coincidence in opinion that some of the Convicts might be usefully employed in the Mines which I pointed out, not doubting but that you are convinced of the necessity of amending the present expensive mode of disposing of them, you will of course bring forward your intended Bill this Session, as soon as the more urgent business of the House abates. I can assure you Sir that you cannot render your Country a more essential Service at this juncture, than, instituting a Committee by Motion in the House to investigate the propriety how well the proposition I have made will have advantage to merit the design and powers of your Bill to the procuring such alteration in the disposal of the Convicts. From such an enquiry the true means and inferences will be fairly weighed and deliberated upon, which to judge of, the whole of its effect must be considered together, and not in interested and detached parts. The Principles of your Bill will be the more laudable and perfect, by the many proofs which may be brought to supportthe good intention and necessity of it, as the explanations with indubitable clearness may be disclosed to the mutual support of each other, and for the general benefit to community. I know you are not governed by hasty opinions, and that a few minutes patient thought will perfectly reconcile you to this fixed certainty and which you require no hint to be prepared to meet. "That there are few propositions made in which plausible arguments founded on personal consideration may be urged against, or can there be scarcely an undertaking adopted that is beneficial to the Public, but some persons may conceive themselves prejudiced by it, and will in consequence interest themselves against the enterprize, nor need I further observe that opposition is the attendant fate of most Bills of this description which come before Parliament. Permit me to offer my pittance in contribution to your Zeal, with every information in my power, and also to assure you I shall be happy if your endeavours should produce a more solid establishment by a proper applied labor, in opposition to that which is fatally allotted to the offence of infamy. I am, Sir, with truth and esteem, Your most Obedient Humble Servant, Thomas English
file 9943 note Gillingham 12 July 1793 Buried Mrs Amelia Marsh - Accustomed Fees to the Minister - £2.12.0 Clerk - £1.12.0 Stamps - £0.0.3 Affidavit - £0.0.6 (total) - £4.4.9 Received the Contents Dan Bendsted, Clark.
1794 File 9846 Envelop To - The Honourable Montgomery Stewart, Mrs. No.6 Berners Street, London (postmark - Lewes - 50) 8 March 1794. Releaseof G.E. Graham for his Mother's Estates. (Mr?) Marsh will find my letter in Norfolk Street, with best compliments to Mrs Steward, Yours Truly, G.E.Graham.
File 9796 Memorandum I have this year helped the distressed and given as much in Charity as I could reasonably do from my income. I have endeavoured carefully to avoid any kind of oppression, injustice or incivility, and most earnestly and heartily laid hold on every opportunity to endeavour by acts of kindness, to make those happy who are worthy and have fallen within my circle of action. I have been constantly on my guard, to bear the Prosperity I am blessed with, so as not to behave arrogantly or to forget from whom it came; or to fall into the luxury and dissipation which is too often the consequence of Wealth and Power. Have lived regularly and comfortably within my income; enjoyed every necessary of Lift. Have employed my mind and exercised my body constantly, whereby I have been blessed with good Spirits and health accompanied with the (asfulness?) and happiness; and upon reflection from this conduct, have obtained as fully perhaps as possible that inestimable possession - My own approbation. George Marsh 31 December 1795(?) Note, my pleasure has been lately greatly increased by my dear son William's marriage from which, in consequence of the good sense, and good disposition of his wife and the possession of every other necessary, they have greatest prospects of happiness.
1795
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February 1795
A Narrative of the Services of George Marsh Esq. one of the Principal Officers and Commissioners of His Majesty's Navy, in the course of Sixty years, from February 1735 to this time.
Viz.
In February 1735 he entered onboard His Majesty's Ship Newark of 80 guns under the patronage of Admiral Sir George Walton, in order to be brought up for the Sea Service, but upon Sir George's quitting it the following year, on account of his age and infirmities, he was entered into and ever since has served civil departments in the Navy. In 1745, an account was called for by Parliament of the Expence of all Naval Stores, the disbursement abroad, and of Ships purchased, during Queen Ann's War with Spain,the first five years and Nine months, of which was ordered to be collected, calculated and compared yearly as well as totally under oath each head, with an equal time of King George the second's War with Spain Viz., from Octoer 1739 to June 1745, inclusive. And as he was then a Clerk to the Comptroller of the Navy, and had before been in that Quality to the Commissioner of the Navy residing at Deptford to superintend and forward the business of that and Woolwich yards, and was well acquainted therewith he was chosen by the Navy Board to perform that great work, which he executed accordingly in a few months, but by too close an application to it every day, early and late, he brought on an alarming complaint in his head, that he did not quite recover from for several years after. In 1755 Mr.Mostyn then Commissioner of the Navy appointed a Rear Admiral and ordered to proceed to Plymouth to fit out a Fleet there as soon as possible, upon the then approaching War with France who thought proper to take him with him as his Secretary on that service, and when the Fleet sailed from thence, he returned to his duty as a Clerk in the Navy Office. In 1763, the Earl of Egmont was appointed to preside at the head of the Admiralty Board, and chose him as his private Secretary. Soon after he was appointed one of the Commissioners for Victualling the Navy. In April 1769 he was chosen as a Director of the Roya. Hospital at Greenwich. In 1772 he was appointed a Commissioner of the Navy as Comptroller of the Victualling Accounts thereof, and in June following he was promoted to the Important Trust of Clerk of the Acts of the Navy, who is the first named Commissioner thereof in the Navy Boards Patent on the correspondent (in the Clerk line - crossed out) accounting line of the civil part of that Board; a branch that requires constant dayly attendance for the due execution of it. In 1776 it was however judged proper to send him to Hamburg to hire Foreign Ships for Transports, which extraordinary Service he performed in less than three months Stored, Victualled, fitted and embarked the Troops, which sailed from the Elb the latter end of May in that year. He has served as a Commissioner Thirty three years, during several wars and continues to execute his Duty at this time, when the Fleet of England is the largest and best equiped (most Noblest - crossed out) Great Britain, or indeed any other Nation ever possessed. He is now and has been many years the oldest Commissioner of the Navy, commonly called the Father of the Navy Board.
next page Mr Marsh, having been Clerk to several Commissioners of the Navy above 50 years ago, who resided at Deptford to superintend the business of that and Woolwich yards, he was appointed, being acquainted therewith to collect and draw out an account to be laid before the Honorable House of Commons the Expence of all Naval Stores, the Disbursements abroad, and of Ships built in Merchants yards, or purchased during the whole term of Queen Anne's War. The first five years and nine months of which were compared yearly as well as Totally under every head, with an Expence of an Equal time of King George II's War with Spain, viz, from October 1739 to June 1745 inclusive, which with the constant close attendance thereon for a considerable time brought on such an alarming geddyness in his head, that for several years, he kept a cover of a letter in his pocket addressed to himself, that it might be known where he lived in case of his falling in the street as he passed to and fro in his Duty at the Navy Office before he was appointed Commissioner (in the various branches of - crossed out) (in which he has served - crossed out) which occasioned him to live out of London for the benefit of his health by air and exercise, and though by his unwearied attention to the various branches of the Navy in which he has served since he has not totally got the better of his complaint, he has by cautious tempered living been blessed in general in other respects with good health.
File 9849 Envelope Lord Spencer July 1795
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Printed Diary pages . x 2 Memorandums, Observations, and Appointments in April 1795
Monday 27 April 1795 - Set off for Blackheath, got home by 4 o'clock. Expenses 3.19.0 Tuesday 28 April 1795 - At the Board
Wednesday 29 April - Ditto
Thursday 30 April 1795 - Ditto
Friday 1 May 1795 - At the Board. The King, Queen and Princesses with the Duke and Duchess of York came to Somerset house to see the paintings and then came to - the Navy Office through the Hall and walked on the Terrace, (no other Commissioners but myself was in the office, but inquired and attended them. They called my by name and in a very amiable, pleasing manner asked me how I did, and talked much more with me.
Saturday 2 May 1795 - At the Board. Paid Fife for Chariot Glass - 3
Sunday 3 May 1795 - At the Chapel
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April, 4th Month, has xxx Days. Accounts of Monies 27 - In the Coach road Mr Day and Gentleman Tarmer near Gad's Hill, Kent and four women - Expenses in this journey Gave Mr Creed Mr Pain's (Cert'?) from the Treasury of the Navy for a sum of a Navy Bill for him, viz 204.2.3 to purchase asmuch more of the £5 % 6 'ls as will make £400 more than he now has therein. Paid the house maid's wages. 1 May -
File 9837 Printed Diary Page Memorandums, Observations, and Appointments in May 1795 Monday 4 May 1795 - At the Board
Tuesday 5 May 1795 - Ditto
Wednesday 6 May 1795 - Ditto. And at Salters Hall
Thursday 7 May 1795 - Ditto. Received 24.2.3 of Mr Phillips Rent of Chatham houses.
Friday 8 May 1795 - Ditto
Saturday 9 May 1795 - At Greenwich hospital and at Mr Porry's at Blackheath with Lord Spencer, his Lady, her sister, Lord Lucan and the Navy Board at the launch of the Wintaston(?) which the Government have bought.
Sunday 10 May 1795 - At Lewisham Church. Mr (Lowth?) was buried there today, morning after having been Vicar of the parish 55 years. (Reverend William Lowth MA, - died 30 April 1795)
File 9850 (other side of above?)
Admiralty, 9 July 1795
Sir,
I have to acknowledge your letter of today and am much obliged to you for a sight of the Pamphlett which you were so good as to send with it. I am, Sir, Your obedient, humble servant. Spencer (re) Commissioner Marsh
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Print Diary page Memorandum, Observations, and Appointments in August, 1795
Monday 24 August 1795 - At the Board
Tuesday 25 August 1795 - Ditto
Wednesday 26 August 1795 - Ditto
Thursday 27 August 1795 - Ditto
Friday 28 August 1795 - Ditto
Saturday 29 August 1795 - Ditto
Sunday August 1795 - At the Chapel &c. My son and Family with Martin and James Morrison dined with me.
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Printed diary page Memorandums, Observations, and Appointments in September 1795
Monday 31 August 1795 - At the Board
Tuesday 1 September 1795 - Ditto
Wednesday 2 September 1795 - Ditto
Thursday 3 September 1795 - Ditto
Friday 4 September 1795 - Ditto
Saturday 5 September 1795 - Ditto - Mr Marsh of Rainham and his Wife returned home.
Sunday 6 September 1795 - at the Chapel
File 9828 Printed diary page Memorandums, Observations, and Appointments in December 1795 Monday 28 December 1795 - At the Board
Tuesday 29 December 1795 - Ditto
Wednesday 30 December 1795 - Ditto
Thursday 31 December 1795 - Ditto
Memorandums and Resolutions At the End of the Year, 1795 Thank God I have been blessed with health, peace of mind, and passed through this year and indeed all my Life with all possible happiness and lived as comfortably as any person whatever with in my income I have been blessed with. I have always endeavoured to live pleasures of eating and drinking too much &c &c &c.
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Printed diary page - 1795? December, 12th Month, has xxxi days. (Week 52) Account of Monies 21 Dec - Paid George Chapman the carpenter to this day.
Ditto Mr Stratton the Brazier Verral packed 36 doz of Port in my Store Celler - 25 doz. Sherry 60 bought of Mr Bell and about 15 doz. ditto bought of Mr Lett & 4 dozen Madeira - put in the New Cellar in (servant's?) hall.
My sister came to my house.
1796
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12 Jan 1796
Lent Doctor Robertson Some Jenning's book.
This advertisment appeared in the Papers but it's insertion was unknown to Mr Marsh, nor did he ever know by whom it was sent to the Paper!!
Statement of the Services and principal Events in the life of the late George Marsh Esq. A Commissioner of His Majesty's Navy.
In 1796 however, the whole constitution of the Navy Board and the excellent Instructions framed for the conducting the business of the Department by King James 2nd when Lord High Admiral were subverted and annulled. Mr.Marsh's long experience led him to form an opinion unfavourable to the wisdom and expediency of the changes then made and his zeal for the public Service compelled him to express that opinion very openly and to support it by pointing out the evils to which those changes might give rise; but his opposition to the new measures had no other effect than the making to himself enemies of those whose interest had devised them and whose influence was sufficiently powerful to carry them into effect. Shortly after this Mr.Marsh was induced by a conversation he had with Sir Andrew Hammond, Comptroller and Mr.Gambier, Secretary to the Board, to write a letter to Lord Spencer, the first Lord of the Admiralty, tendering his resignation on condition of having a Baronetcy conferred on him and a Pension of £500 per Annum, (the amount of the old salary of a Commissioner of the Navy) to him Mr.Marsh considered that his diligent and faithful services to the Public of 63 years entitled him. On the 29th August 1796 Lord Spencer sent for Mr.Marsh, told him that he considered his demands very reasonable and that he would recommend him to the King for the Baronetcy and Pension and shortly after Sir Andrew Hammond informed Mr.Marsh that Lord Spencer had in fact carried his promise to that effect. A few days subsequently to this communication the following paragraph appeared in the Newspapers "The King has been pleased to confer the honour of a Baronetcy on George Marsh Esq., one of the Principal Officers and Commissioners of his Majesty's Navy together with a Pension of £600 per Annum in regard of his long and faithful Service of 61 years, Thirty four of which he has been a Commissioner and 24 in that important branch of Clerk of the Acts of the Navy. No man is better acquainted with the Civil Departments thereof or his ever served with more constant attention to his Duty to his King and Country or with more affability of manners or more general Esteem and respect as all persons who have had the honour of any connexion with him can testify - his resigning his office will be very much regretted." Whether this paragraph was inserted in the Newspapers by a weak zealour friend or by a designing enemy Mr.Marsh never ascertained, the consequence however was that Lord Spencer sent for Mr.Marsh and expressed his surprise and regret at the appearance of such a paragraph prior to his Majesty's having finally approved of the arrangement, the impropriety of which was such at it must at best cause the excution of what had been intended to be deferred. Mr.Marsh could only assure his Lordship of his entire ignorance of the channel through which the matter had been made public and of his own extreme surprise and reaction at the occurance; that he was himself in no manner a party to this indescretion which had been committed wholly without his privity or assent,but Mr.Marsh remarked to Lord Spencer that the contemplation of the arrangement in question could be no secret eitherat the Admiralty or the Navy Office and he therefore presumed to hope that the impropriety would not be attributed to him. Lord Spencer ever afterwards avoided all communication with Mr.Marsh on the subject and whether really owing to the appearance of this sole paragraph or that by the creatoin of three extra Commissioners Mr.Marsh seat was no longer wanted by those who were moulding the constitution of the board into its new form, it is certain that the whole arrangement for Mr.Marsh's resignation was for the present suspended.
Copy of a Letter I wrote to Lord Spencer
12 Nov 1796 with his answer. Requesting the embodying of the Workmen of the yards.
I am highly honored with your Lordship's Letter of yesterday respecting Lieutenant Mansal. I beg leave to equate your Lordship, I have just recollected that about forty years since the workmen of His Majesty's several Dock years were taught the Exercise, and then seemed a fine body of Men, and I presume Batalion of 1,000 Men may at this time be raised in each of the great yards, and in proportion in the three smaller yards. I therefore presume it may be proper to represent this to your Lord's information and consideratio. (The objection -crossed out) I am aware it may be argued that it would retard the repairs &c of the Fleet. It must however be submitted whether half a day in week for the purpose would have such an effect (in any good degree - crossed out) (at least - above) equal to the advantage that may be derived from it. Battalion
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Printed diary page Memorandums, Obersvation and Appointments in August 1796
Monday 15 August 1796 - At the Navy Board
Tuesday 16 August 1796 - Ditto
Wednesday 17 August 1796 - Ditto
Thursday 18 August 1796 - Ditto
Friday 19th August 1796 - Ditto. Received 300 of Marsh & Creed and paid it to Mr Paine
Saturday 20th August 1796 - At Greenwich Hospital but not at the Board
Sunday 21 August 1796 - At the Chapel
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(Year?) August 8th Month, has xxxi Days. Account of Monies Drank tea and Coffee and had a fine (Salabub?) and above a most hearty welcome with a great variety of (Fruit? Trust?) Expenses in this Journey of 12 days £19.13.10 Sent Lady Charlotte Dunscombe two Bottles of Cape Wine.
My son has wife and Amelia called and spent two hours with me.
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Print diary pag Memorandums, Observations and Appointments in August 1796 Monday 22nd August 1796 - At the Board Tuesday 23 rd August 1796 - Ditto Wednesday 24th August 1796 - Ditto Thursday 25th August 1796 - Ditto Friday 26th August 1796 - Ditto Saturday 27th August 1796 - Ditto Sunday 28th - At the Chapel
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13 November 1796
From - Lord Spencer
To - Commissioner George Marsh, Navy Office. Sir, I am much obliged to you for your suggestion on the subject of embodying the Artifices of the Dock Yards, but I cannot help entertain some doubt whether any Interruption to their other business at the time when it i s necessarily so very pressing may not be attended with disadvantage to the publick Service. I am, Sir, with great truth, your very obediant and humble servant. Spencer.
file 9810 Printed diary page Memorandums and Resolutions - At the End of Year 1796 Note. I expend about 40 Bushels of Malt in a year producing about 27 half hogs of good Beer all of a sort and 120 ale at 6 per Bushel. - 12.0.0 40 good Tarnham hopps - 3.0.0 Brewer & Tiring about - 3.0.0 Note. Half a hogs'd last at a medium 12 days.
1797 Envelop - folded document paper. Wm Marsh Esq The late James Piney Eagle (?)
31 March 1797 Letter My Lord, Being strongly impressed with the sense of justness in your Lordships sentiments upon every care that may be submitted to your decision; I beg leave to take this method, a being I presume the least troublesome to transmit the inclosed memorandum relative to myself in confidence that your Lordship will seem it deserving of your attention, more especailly from what your Lordship was pleased sometime since, to say you knew of my Character and Services. I have the honour to be, My Lord Your Lordships most obedient Servant Gill Navy Office, 31 March 1797
Envelope - folded document - outer cover Memorandum - sent to (sect?) to Lord Spencer 31 March 1797 31 March 1797 Memorandum - 31 March 1797 It having been Judged proper in August last, to form a new Patent and Instructions for the Commissioners of the Navy, directing the business of the Navy Office in future to be transacted in Committee, the Office or Branch formed Clerk of the Acts of the Navy, was thereby virtually abolished, and Mr Marsh who had held (the branch) for Twenty five years was in consequence placed in the New Patent, without any particular Branch assigned to him, and has therefore ever since been attached to the Committee of correspondence with the new salary of One thousand Pounds per annum. His former Salary was eight hundred Pounds, and the right (from custom) of appointing his own Clerks, averated at Two hundred and Ten Pounds per annum. But as he has been deprived of the allowance for Coals, Candles and House Rent, which has been invariably allowed (also by Custom) to all the Commissioners of the Navy (from the original institution of the Board (crossed out)) he now actually suffers a diminution of Income, since the new Establishment of about two hundred Pounds per Annum. When the House allowed Mr Marsh at Somerset Place was completed, Captain Wallis then a Commissioner of the Navy, requested he would permit him to reside therein, as he found Mr Marsh, for the benefit of his health, which had suffered in a very alarming manner by the long and close attendance in His Majesty's Service, to live in the house upon Blackheath. They therefore agreed that Mr Wallis should inhabit the same, upon paying Mr Marsh the House Rent he was, as an Extra Commissioner allowed.Vix Eighty Pounds per Annum. Upon Commissioner Wallis's death Commissioner Hope, also agreed with Mr Marsh to live in the House upon the same terms, and had regularly paid him the Rent above mentioned of Eighty Pounds per Annum, until the new Establishment was received at the Navy Board. It is judged proper in future to discontinue the allowance of Coals, Candles and House Rent to new, or Extra Commissioners, who are not allowed a House, Mr Marsh presume's it was not meant to deprive him of these benefits, who has been many years "The Father of the Board," and constantly enjoyed them; and therefore with great deference hopes, that for his Life, his situtaion will not be rendered worse by the Branch he has held so many years being annulled. Mr Marsh has now been, from the age of Thirteen, a period of Sixty two years in the Public Service and is conscious he has ever devoted his whole time and attention to the Execution of his Duty in the varous Branches of the Navy, in which he has been employed, to the utmost of his abilities and Power, with greatest Faithfulness and Zeal for the King's Service, and has, he trusts, uniformly conducted himself to his Credit and honor. He cannot therefore but seriously feel, that although it has been thought proper and necessary to make a new System for the Civil department of the Navy, it should at the same time be permitted to operate to the Individual prejudice of so old an Established Servant, but which however he flatters himself he need only thus represent to obtain redress.
10 April 1797 Lord Spencer's letter to Mr.Marsh 10 April 1797 - Lord Spencer in answer to mine 1 March last. Sir, I hope you will do me the Justice to believe that I have not the most distant inclination to give my Consent to any Arrangement which can fairly be considered as operating to the individual prejudice of any Person, nor especially of one whom by Services to the Publick entitled him to the Consideration to which yours unquestionably give you a very strong Claim. At the same time I must differ considerably with you on the subject of the statement you have made to me respecting your former and present emoluments as a Commissioner of the Navy; for when you state that your former salary (as well as that of the other Commissioners) was £800 per Annum it must not be forgotten on what grounds it had been (augmented?) to that sum; the real State of the Case I understand to be thus, and my - - - (being a transaction previous to my coming into Office) is that of Mr.Pitt and Lord Chatham. The Commissioners of the Navy had (per Annuity?) £500 per Annum which was increased to £800 on consideration of the extra Addition of Duty - -- respecting the Transport Service, especially in time of War. On that Branch being taken from the Navy Office and transferred to a Board (peculiarly?) attached to it, it would have been naturally expected that the additional £300 would be taken off, but it was allowed to remain expressly in consideration of the Regulations then intended to be adopted in in pursuance of the (Reports?) of the Commissioners of Accounts, and particularly in consideration of that Regulation which abolished the very improper (factor?) which had prevailed of (calling, selling?) the Clerkships, and according to your own statement compensation for that reduction of emolument (at least in your individual case) was ample and liberal.
(This?) is the statement of the Business a I collected it, both from Lord Chatham and Mr.Pitt when I came to the Board of Admiralty and though the completion of that arrangement has been by unavoidable accidents delayed longer than I could have wished it to be I felt it my Duty to follow up the idea when it was adopted. With respect to the £80 a year for your House Rent, though it certainly does not come within the Rules established, I do not mean to object in your Case to its being allowed, (a study? ) the accommodate of a House for the Deputy Constable will be obtained, and when the Navy Office Regulation is finally issued by the Order from the Admiralty this matter shall be so settled. I am very glad to have had this opportunity of stating to you what I have done in writing, as I am afraid this matter has been differently understood by man of the Gentlemen concerned, though I have invariably explained it on the same footing whenver I have had occasion to toalk on the subject. I am sir, with great respect, your very obedient humble servant, Spencer. Admiralty, 10 April 1797.
File 0350 15 April 1797 Copy of the letter I wrote to Lord Spencer dated 15 April 1797 in answer to his of the 10th ditto. But this was not delivered 'till 6 May. Copy of a letter wrote to Lord Spencer From - George Marsh My Lord, I have been honored with your Lordship's Letter of the 10th inst. and beg leave to express my grateful thanks for the Notice you have been pleased to bestow upon the Case I had the honor to submit to your Lordship, relative to my particular situation in this Office, and in the Publick Service. This attention from your Lordship convinces me that I hneed not urge you my Lord to believe that I could not intentionally state my case to you in a point of view tending to mislead your Lordship's Judgement on the same; or indeed otherwise than I myself saw it. The increase of £300 per annum took place the 2nd of February 1779 and before that time the Salaries and allowance of the Commissioners of the Navy were all Equal; and of this Period it was hinted to some of them to be an opportunity taken of the great Transport Service then under their management to raise the same to all the Members of the Board, from the very inadequate allowance of £500 per annum without at the same time subjecting the Admiralty or Ministersto the many Similar Claims that might otherwise have been brought forward. After the Peace of 1783,the said increase of Salary being continued, tended to confirm this Idea; and I flatter myself your Lordship will consequently admit that I could not therefore conceive but that the £800 per annum stood in this Right with Ministers as a permanent settled Salary. I am very much obliged for what your Lordship has said regarding the allowance for House Rent; (crossed out - and shall) and as it is my Duty to submit to whatever may be your Lordship's final Decision relative to the other points I had the honor of mentioning to you, if upon considering them in the view they have occured tome, your Lordship should still adhere to the Opinion expressed in your Letter; for I beg your Lordship to believe that any Pecuniary loss I may sustain by the System lately introduced, has but a secondary operation in my mind. I have the honor to be, My Lord, Your Lordship's most obediant and most humble servant, G.M. 15 April 1797 P.S. The important business your Lordship has recently been engaged in, is the reason I did not send this letter agreeable to it's date.
File 9811 Print diary page Memorandums, Observations and Appointments in May 1797 Monday 22 May 1797 - At the Board Tuesday 23 May 1797 - Ditto Wednesday 24 May 1797 - Ditto Thursday 25 May 1797 - Ditto - Received & paid Mrs Wallis's and Mr Pain's pensions to Xmas last. Friday 26 May 1797 - Ditto. Paid ditto Saturday 27 May 1797 - Dined with my son at Grove House (Hoare?) Sunday 28 May 1797 - At the Chapel
File 9812 Printed diary page - other side of page from above. May, Fifth Month - XXXI Days. Account of Monies My Son took Mrs Cravan's ready furnished house for two months at 5.5.0 per week. Sir and Lady Hammond told me this day that Lord Spencer said he would be answerable I should be allowed Coals and Candles, and with strongly assurance of his regard for me signifying he would at proper time speak to Mr Pitt that what I desired might be comply'd with. Princess Royal was married to the Prince of Westingburgh.
File 0353 Letter 3 September 1797 Memorandum Mr.Marsh lived in his house at the old Navy Office 'till the Office was removed to Somerset place when all the Members of the Navy Board were allowed house rent with the usual allowance for Coals and Candles for £90 per annum, and when the houses at Somerset place were ready for them to inhabit, Mr Wallis wished to live in London and therefore agreed with Mr.Marsh to pay him the house rent he was allowed, to let him live in his house, which he accordingly complyed with. Upon his death Mr.Hope desired also to live therein upon the same terms. Mr Marsh has therefore receied the house rent and allowance for Coals and Candles to June 1796. Soon after which there was a new arrangement made in the whole Office and six of the Commissioners had houses appropriated to them as at the old Navy Office when Mr.Marsh's was taken from him and given to Mr.Hope who was by the same order appointed deputy Comptroller; and direction given that none of the allowances aforementioned was to be made in future to any Commissioner who did not live in the house allotted to him. All this was done without consulting Mr Marsh or informing him of the intended alteration of the arrangement of the Office. He therefore wrote to Lord Spencer and stated the case, and his Lordshp was pleased to make him an answer and signify that he should be paid his house rent; and at the same time observed his Salary had been increased £200 per annum which he, Mr. Marsh conceived was a compensation for his Clerks, but found the same Salary was allowed to the new appointed Commissioners. He therefore wrote again to his Lordship to explain what he presumed his Lordship was not aquainted with and as the Comptroller and Mr.Hope had assumed Mr.Marsh from Lord Spencer that he should be paid the said allowances he had not the least doubt but he should, and therefore did not trouble his Lordship more upon the Subject. But as he found Sir Andrew Hammond had taken one of the houses (now?) finishing in order to let (Gr?) William Bellingham remain in his, as he was now entitled to a house under the aforesaid order from Admiralty, Mr Marsh's being taken from him - he again applied to Lord Spencer who seemed much displeased and asked if after having live (as he had been told it may be presumed) at Blackheath 50 years if he wanted to turn Sir William Bellingham out of his. If (crossed out - I - he) Mr.Marsh had been told he could not have the allowance, unless he lived in the house, (crossed out- I) he most certainly should have taken and lived in (crossed out - my) his house. Whereas now this business has been so managed that though Mr.Marsh is the oldest Commissioner or Member of the Board, (crossed out - I have not) there has not at present neither a house, nor allowance for Rent or Coals or Candles As (crossed out - his) Mr.Marsh's house has been thus taken from him, and thereby Sir William has obtained one, surely either Government should pay him, or that Sir William should, as Mr.Gambier does Mr.Palmer.
File 9794 Formal invite, type written, with crest. Sir Your Worship is desired to meet at Christ's Hospital on Thursday, next, being St.Matthew's Day, by Ten of the Clock in the morning, to go from thence to Christ Church, to hear a Sermon, and afterwards to hear the Orations in the Great Hall in the said Hospital, with the Right Honourable the Lord-Mayor and the Presidents and Governors of the other Three Hospitals, according to ancient Custom Note. It is particularly requested, that you will take a Green Staff, as a Governor of this Hospital, upon your entering the Great Hall. Bridewell Hospital London, 15th September 1797
File 9795 - Draft of letter (The 2nd - crossed out) Saturday the 23rd September 1797 I waited upon Lord Spencer at the Admiralty by appointment my claim for Coals and Candles and house rent and met with very uncivil and unjust treatment. The case was this when the Navy Office was moved in Somerset House I went and resided in my own house at Blackheath which I had long before advise to do, my health or rather my head (had - crossed out) ever since the year 1744 occasioned by sitting tooclose and too long in making a calculation for the House Common of - which was of so dangerous a nature that after I had completed it, I never was without a direction my pocket, who was, and when I lived, fearing I should drop down suddenly as I went to and from my office, which I certainly should often have done if I had not ketch hold of something in the street when (when) I was so attacked. At such times I nearly lost my sight for about 2 hours, upon recovery of which I was so low and faint that I could hardly stand on my feet attending with violent but of a short duration in my head, and from these frequent attacks I became very weak, and from the help of God, temperance and great ease, I got the better of it, tho' not without some slight (shakes?) of it effects to this day.
File 0347 Letter - draft To - Lord Spencer - September 1797 From - George Marsh 19 September 1797 (?) - Navy Office. My Lord, I have done myself the honor of waiting upon your Lordship, on the subject of my claims in consequence of the new Arrangements at this Office, and which your Lordship was pleased to honor with your Notice (crossed out - and a certain extent your appreciation) in April, so many months ago) In consequence of which (I presume) Mr Napier now nearly 4 months back in a note to Sir Andrew Hammond mentioned that "an Order would very soon be sent for the Payment thereof to Mr Marsh," but no such Order has yet been received. It is always with great regret that I take up your Lordship's time by urging my Individual Interest to your notice, but as your Lordship was pleased upon a former occasion to say my long Services were well known to you, and as it is by your Lordship alone, this (I trust) just claim of mine can now be finally settled, and which from SIr Andrew Hammond's Intention of occupying his own House and other arrangements here, is also every day becoming more perplexed. I am induced to hope your Lordship will not think me too impatient in again making an Appeal to your Lordship's Authority and Justice - an Appeal in which I have the most firm reliance and confidence. I have the honor to be, My Lord, Your Lordship's (crossed out - Most obedient and Obliged and most humble servant)
File 0356 Letter cover October 1797 Memorandum respecting Mr.Marsh's affairs.
File 9813 Printed diary page Memorandums, Observations and Appointments in October 1797 Monday 16 October 1797 - At the Board Tuesday 17 October 1797 - Ditto Wednesday 18 October 1797 - Ditto Thursday 19 October 1797 - Ditto Friday 20 October 1797 - Ditto Saturday 21 October 1797 - Ditto Sunday 22 October 1797 - At the Chapel
File 0508 Letter 22 October 1797 To - George Marsh, Navy Office, London From - Gambier Many thanks, my dear Sir, for your most kind and friendly letter, the contents of which are particularly gratifying to me, as I well know the sincerity and integrity of all your words and actions. I am sorry to tell you that though I have now been confined ten days, treating myself in every respect as my Doctor has bit me, I do not perceive the smalled amendment in my unfortunate (shin?). I keep on Poultices day and night, except when I use (foncentations?), and cannot reduce the swelling or abate the inflamation. Believe me with great respect and esteem, My dear sir, Yours most truly, J. Gambier.
Fle 9814 Printed page - other side or previous October, Tenth Month - XXXI Days - Week 41 Account of Monies Received of Farmer Stanton £150 Sir and W Hammond spoke to me respecting my house. Rent, Coasls and Candles and said Lord Spencer would get me paid house rent out of old stores if that would satisfy me. Gambier - Ditto Paid 10.6 for a Black Bird's cage Received my Salary for the last Quarter to Michelmas last in part 231.5.0
File 0362 Copy of a Letter I wrote to Mr.Gambier the 9 November 1797 From - My dear Sir, Inclosed is a copy of your Statement and Query together with my Observations thereon as you desired, which I wrote the next morning after you delivered the paper to me; but as I was hopeful your accident was not so bad as to detain you (crossed out - in the Country) at home more than a few days, I did not send them to you; (crossed out - but as I conclude) but concluding that these observations were made by you in consequence of conversation with others on the Subject, and which you in return may wish to communicate to them, I think it is better not to delay any longer the transmitting the same to you. It must be obvious to you that the new arrangement at this Office has had rather a degrading tendancy towards me by abolishing the Branch which I had held so many years, and which I shall ever be of opinion was a most essential one for the Interest of the Publick. If however this has been deemed right by those who have the power to say it shall be so it would be unbecoming and very improper, Useless, in me to mention more of my Sentiment at the present Period; and indeed so far I could not suppose any part of the New Patent was Personal to me, but what am I to think if any Junior Member of the Board is permitted to enjoy privileges clearly my right even by the new Patent? However I am sorry to say these are Questions of Interest and Influence, and I must be very much lost to my own comfort and happiness - (3 lines scribbled out - if after the unmerited treatment I ever suffered it to - - - ) My dear Sir, yours most truly and Faithfully George Marsh 4 November 1797
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File 0366 cover Narrative &c. Letter to Lord Spencer
1798 file 9815 Printed dairy page January, First Month - XXXI Days (1798?) Paid Wm Chapman wages of 10.0 due this day. (Sunday 7th January - in pencil) Acquainted Mr Reeves that I mean to sell his house for 170 - and Mr Ingrey's for 130. My son and all his family dined with me. This day I was 76 years of age and thank Good I have and do enjoy a very large share of Blessings of life such as health, peace of mind and every comfort.
File 0495 An Address to the Inhabitants of the Parish of Lewisham, Kent As the time is drawing near in which our Country is threatened with total Destruction I submit it to the consideration of those persons who are happy in it, and Love the King, the Constitution, Laws, Religion, Liberty, and every thing else that is dear to us, whether voluntary Contributions without delay should not be made for the support and preservation of the Nation, before the Enemy may attempt to make a Landing, and thereby avert the dire calamities and consequences if they should succeed therein. By subscribing for the support of the state, it would in a great degree,if not wholly prevent otherwise the unavoidable increase of Taxes, and lessen the distress of the Industrious Poor. For my own part I will cheerfully subscribe Five Hundred Pounds every Years during the War, for so noble a purpose. See the Example of Our brave Officers, Seamen and Soldiers at this Crisis who are not only ready to shed their blood in the defence of their Country, but also to subscribe as much as in their power for the support of the Nation. How absolutely necessary it is therefore become that the Landholders and Wealthy part thereof, should liberally subscribe to the safety of it, and indeed all others; for although their Contributions individually may be but small sums, yet if it should be only half a Crown, or even one Shilling, it would from numbers raise in each Parish a considerable Sum, added to what persons might give, who have it mor in their power, and be a proof of the Unanimity of the whole Nation. George Marsh, Blackheath, 11 February 1798
File 0340 July 1798 Proposed to be written to Lord Spencer but was not.
File 0341 My Lord, I beg leave to state to your Lordship that upon my application on the 21 August 1795, you were pleased to honor me with a very kind reception; since that time particularly on the 21 September last, I have with great concern, experienced the contrary. It therefore appears to the astonishment of those who know me, both in and out of Office, that I certainly must have unknowingly offended your Lordship, or that you have been prejudiced by persons to great Influence against me, for their own Credit and emolument; whereby I have already sustained a loss, since June 1796 of about £350,a nd the King's house taken from me, which I have enjoyed the possession of (agreeable to my several patents) in common with the Commissioners of the Navy and Victualling, ever since His Majesty was graciously pleased to order me to be appointed in October 1763, in that Quality; and it is well known I have lived therein, until this office was removed from Tower Hill. My Lord no sooner was the change of the Office business determined upon, that it was judged proper to increase the number of Commissioners here, when I was told my application to your Lordship on the said 21 August 1795 was thought to be a Job, although it was known not to be so, for expected no pecuniary advantage, nor was any proposed thereby to me. My Lord Sir Andrew Hamond, has never lived in the King's house here appropriated to hm, no more than I have in mine, but is allowed by sign manuel £170 per annum out the Fund (little known) arising from the sale of old Stores, and receives also £80 a year more from Sir WIlliam Bellingham to whom he lets his house together £250 per annum for house Rent only. Sir Andrew has too, thought proper to take one of the unfinished houses here instead of going into his own; and as mine has been taken from me, and given to Mr.Hope he has obtained two houses and also the allowance for Coals and Candles, and has got Sir William fixed (as his Tenant - crossed out) in that appropriated to him, who is not intitled to a house at this Office, even by the last order from the Admiralty Board on that head. I am conscious my Lord that my Character, conduct and actions, both public and private will bear the most stricktest scrutiny, which I shall always be ready to meet and defend. And it is well known that veyr few men if any ever served His Majesty and the publick so long, more Truthfully, or more constantly attended the Duty of my several appointments than I have always done, having devoted my whole time thereto, which it is absolutely necessay from the very great business of this Office for a Commissioner of the Navy to do so. Indeed I have made it my pleasure, and mean to persevere therein as long as I live. My Lord, thank God I only want Justice for I am not anxious for anything else, and in consequence of the repeated messages I have received from your Lordship, by Sir Andrew and Mr.Hope that I should be paid, I have (long requesed it - crossed out) forbore troubling your Lordship thereon. The reason therefore of my being excluded so long from those favors and justice, it is obvious from the high office your Lordship holds you have if in your power, as well as inclination to confer and administer to others, is totally unknown to me. I shall however still hope and it is my earnest wish, to obtain the same from you my Lord only, by ordering me to be paid the arrears due, and to have one of the houses here; or paid the house Rent and the allowance for Coals and Candles, all which I have been deprived of, by men of great Interest. I am with all due Respect. My Lord, your Lordships most obediant and most humble servant.
File 9835 Print Diary page - 1798 -99 ? August, 8th Month, has xxxi Days. Account of Monies 17 - Admiral Gambier called on me at the Office. Mr Gambier came round to me to know on what form I would quit. Friday 21 August Wrote to Lord Spencer to resign upon the conditions mentioned in my letter to his Lordship of this date and a copy in my drawer and in my Memorandum book of my family.
File 0335 Letter 6 August 1798 draft letter to - ? Lord Spencer - (proposed to be written but was not) From - George Marsh ? Navy Office To - My Lord, In consequence of a communication from Sir Andrew Hammond in the course of last month, I have been in dayly expectation of being honored by your Lordship's order to wait upon you on the Subject of my retiring from this Board, but I have not had that honor, and an arrangement is now in consequence thereof become a Public even to the news papers. I have long depending my Lord from the Messages communicated to me by Sir Andrew and Mr.Hope that it was your Lordship's intention that I should be paid my house rent &c which I have been deprived of ever since Midsummer 1796 amounting now to near Four hundred Pounds. The last time I had the honor to wait upon your Lordship you was pleased with great displeasure to observe that after living at Blackheath fifty years I wanted to turn Sir William Bellingham out of his house. My Lord I conclude you have been wrongly informed, and that my Character in many respects has by artful Interested persons been greatly injured by false respesentations to you, but I have no doubt at a future time, if any such has been made, very fully to clear it to your Lordship. It is well known both in and out (of) office that I always lived in the King's houses appointed to me at the Victualling and Navy Offices 'till the latter was moved from Tower Hill; and what has occurred since, your Lordship has been acquainted with. And it is as well known, I have never neglected my Duty at either, and that no Individual member has ever more constantly attended the business of those Boards than myself. My Lord I am one of the last men in the World to endeavour to deprive any Man of his rights,from which cause perhaps arise those feelings (of which I flatter myself your Lordship can readyly judge) that serve to render me more tenascious of my own. In consequence of what repeatedly passed at the Navy Board my expressing my sentiments on this subject Mr.Gambier (from the most friendly motives I hope (am satisfired - crossed out) put a Query to me a copy of which and my answer thereon I take the Liberty of enclosing to your Lordship as the most concise mode in my power at present of shewing how very much unfairly and unjustly I have been treated, although the oldest member of the Board. I have only to add that to this moment I know by hearsay only, that your Lordship has been pleased to obtain such honourable testimony of my conduct in the Service of His Majesty and the Public (for the last Sixty years - crossed out) as is intended me. (whole paragraph crossed out). I am persuaded (however - crossed out) from your Lordship's honor and justice this plain representation of facts will have due weight with your Lordship and to induce you to order me to be paid what is my just due, which is most earnestly wished by him who is with all due respect, My Lord, y.l.m.o.l.s. (Your loyal and most obliged humble servant.)
File 0339 letter Draft - continued. How or by whom the paragraphs I have seen in the new papers have been introduced there, I know not, but conclude (as I had no information on the subject from your Lordship), they have been inserted by some official and officious man for reasons only known to himself.
File 0325 My dear Father's Letter &c. &c. &c. 9 August 1798 My Lord, I beg leave to acquaint your Lordship that I have reason to suppose it appeared to me in August 1795 that you was desirous of appointing Mr Gambier to a Seat at this Board, who applied to me to know if I intended to retire from it, and even brought me a draft of a letter, proposed in that case, for me to (signify - crossed out) write to your Lordship for that purpose, which I did do on the 21 (day - crossed out) of the said month (without any the least pecuniary proposal) where-in I begged your Lordhship's influence to procure me a Baronetcy wiht such a pension as I should hope from my very long Services your Lordship should think me worthy of and that under such circumstances I should be inclined to resign. Whereupon you was pleased to observe as you knew my opiinion and supposed excellent character I was not in a hurry and you should be glad to serve me. (pencil edit - - ) Upon the death of my assistant in you was pleasede to appoint Mr.Gambier to succeed him as Secretary to the Navy Boardand in June 1796, to increase the Number of Commissioners these to carry on the business of it, by Committe and to appoint that Gentleman one of the Commissioners. Since which I have never heard any thing from your Lordship on the subject of my aforementioned Letter (to your Lordship - crossed out) but have (frequently met with - crossed out) experienced very degrading, unjust treatment from men of influence and interest. I therefore now (shall - crossed out) beg leave to aquaint you that Mr.Towry has frequently applied to me in a very particular manner to solicit your Lordship for the purpose above mentioned, to which my answer has always been, that as your Lordship knows my mind, I (could - crossed out) would not again trouble you. To my great surprise however, I have lately seen paragraphs in all the newspapers that I was going to retire upon a Baronetcy &c., and that Mr.Towry was to succeed me, of which I had no intimation from your Lordship, indeed Sir, and - - -it is issued to me that everything was settled to my wish. On Tuesday last your Lordship were pleased also to express to me very great surprise and displeasure on the occasion (also very great surprise - cross out). I then assured your Lordship I did not wish to retire from the Navy Board as I am blessed with good health, upon any other condition than those mentioned in my Letter of 21 August 1795, which I beg leave hereby to repeat. (another page) - To my great surprise however, I have lately seen paragraphs in all the news papers that I was going to retire upon a Baronetcy &c., and that Mr.Towry was to succeed me, of which I had no intimation from your Lordship, indeed I was told by Sir Andrew Hammond and others that every thing was settled to my wish. On Tuesday last you was also pleased to express very great surprise and displeasure on the occasion. I then assured your Lordship I did not wish to retire from the Navy Board, as I am blessed with good health upon any other conditions than those mentioned in my letter of 21 August 1795 which I beg leave hereby to repeat to your Lordship.
File 9804 Printed diary page Memorandum, Observations, and Appointments - in October 1798 Monday 8th October 1798 - At the office. Tuesday 9th October 1798 - Ditto Wednesday 10th October 1798 - Ditto Thursday 11th October 1798 - Ditto Friday 12th October 1798 - Ditto Saturday 13th October 1798 - Ditto Sunday 14th October 1798 - At the Chapel
1799 file 9816 Printed diary page (other side of page above) Memorandums, Obersvations, and Appointments in January 1799 Monday 28 January 1799 - In the office Tuesday 29 January 1799 - Ditto - The Treasurer of the Navy referred a Letter from Robert Ayres respecting my son's house. And at Saltars Hall Wednesday 30 January 1799 - Ditto Thursday 31 January 1799 - Ditto Friday 1 February 1799 - Ditto Saturday 2 February 1799 - Ditto Sunday 3 January 1799 - At home all day being a very hard Frost with much snow.
File 9832 Printed diary page - Account of Monies (1799?) 27 - This day I was 77 years of age and thank God I have passed my Life to this time as well and as happy as I believe, as any man ever lived for which I am very thankful and truly sensible. 1 February - Advanced Marks £7
File 0497 Accounts March 1799 - The Particulars of my Income G.M. Sent my account dated 23 March 1799 to Mr.Lance to be delivered to the Commissioner the 25 March. When Mrs.Ray sent hers. -- An account of my Income in the last year from which I have made no deductions whatever. Salary - £1,000 Dividends - Bank Stock - £350 Long Annities - £180 £5 per Cents - £100 Ditto Loyalty - £56 £3 per Cents Consols - £180 Ditto Ditto in my Son's name - £96 (Total Stocks) - - -£962 India Stock - £104 Rent of three houses by Chatham Church £22 Quarter part of some land and houses at Chatham, Gillingham and Luton - £22 Rent of the farm and Lands at Hyde near Hendon, Middlesex occupied by Edward Nicoll - £194 Two houses, Coach house and Stabel on Dartmouth hill, Blackheath. - £20 Rent of my leasehold house in Dartmouth Row - £60 Received from Greenwich Hospital for my attendance there about - £18 (sub-total) £344 (sub-total) - £2,410 Interest of money lent - £96 (Total) - £2,506 Sent my account to Mr.Lance the Collector the 23 of March 1799 - offering to pay £250.12.0 for the Income Tax.
File 9833 Printed Diary Page Memorandums, Observations, and Appointments in August 1799 Monday 26 August 1799 - At the Board Tuesday 27 August 1799 - Ditto. Wednesday 28 August 1799 - Ditto. And at Salters Hall. Thursday 29 August 1799 - Ditto. And at Mr Fisher's, Coach maker in the Haymarket or as the end of German Street. Friday 30 August 1799 - Ditto Saturday 31 August 1799 - Ditto Sunday 1 September 1799 - At the Chapel. Capt. and Mrs Leake with Mrs Hunter(?) dined with me.
File 9834 Print Diary page - other side of previous? August, Eigth Month, XXXI Days. (Week 34) Account of Monies 19 - Called on Mrs Colyer, Rather(?) Green. - error. Sir and W.Hammon told me Lord Spencer had spoken to the King annd that I might have a baronetcy or pension but that I could not have both. Paid into my Son's Banking house in Berner Street, 310. in gold. Left the account of my two little houses with Mr Scott the attorney. Mrs Ray and self called on Mr (Frewin?) at Eltham and I called on Sir (Nx?) Parker at Admiralty.
File 9852 letter - neat handwriting 10th September 1799 Memorandum of the Money I have in the Stocks and on my Effects In the Stocks. The Dividends Received The Value of the . yearly thereon said Stocks at this . time In the Bank £5,000 350 8,750 Consols
9,200 276 6,000 Old £ 5 %
2,000 100 1950 New (Ld?) Loyalty 2,000 100 1950 India 1,000 105 2,000 3 pe Cent Reduced Annuities
200 24 520 Long Annuities
180 per Ann. 120 3240 . 1135 24,410 Nicol's Farm - 200 6,000 The old houses behind Chatham Church . . 22 250 My ¼ part of the house and land at Chatham, Gillingham and Luton. 30 200 In the Berner Steet house 1307 1115 . . 31.975 Lord Sandwich debt to Ladyday Last - 550 which I believe will never be recovered. Marsh, the Surgeon - perhaps may be paid. - 50 Other sums I never mean to recover from my S - - - about 1,400 Paid for the several of the leasehold Estate at Shorne 360 . 2,260 carried.
File 9853 -
continuing from previous page Brought over - £31,975 D.o debts which will never be paid, at least some of them are doubtful. - £2,260 Value of the lease of my house, coach house and stable - £1,000 Goods, Rings &c. &c. - £1,600 £2,600 . . £34.575 Note, the greatest part of this account is by Estimate I have not mentioned any things in my Will of my Son's dear good wife, or of all the dear Children leaving it to him (my son - crossed out) to dispose of my fortune and effects to them as he may from his love and affection for them all, (as he may - crossed out) judge proper. George Marsh 10 Sept, 1799 - Particulars of my Fortune.
File 0493
Memorandum of what Money I have given. In 1794 - For raising the Infantry in Kent to Mr.Everest - £40.0.0 In 1798 - Voluntary contribution for the support of the Country - £500.0.0 Assessed taxes - £106.4.6 Government other taxes - £39.2.6 To Employ the industrious poor of Lewisham - £20.0.0 and annually - £2.2.0 To the Assocation of Lewisham Parish £50.0.0 - This sum was exclusive of what else I give in Charity and Subscriptions. Omitted before. Paid on Account of the Cavalry £717.9.0 An Account of my whole income in the year 1798 Salary - £1000 Book Stock Inst - 5,000 - £350 3 £4 percent Consols - 6000 - £180 Long Annuities - 6000 - £180 Ditto in my Son's name - 3200 - £96 Loyalty £5 per cent - 1125 - £56.5.0 India Stock - 1000 - £105.0.0 Nicoll's Rent - £194.2.0 Dartmouth (Hill?) about - £20.0.0 Chatham & Gillingham &c. &c. about - £36.0.0 About half this my own 3 houses at Chatham
(total) £2317.7.0
File 0483
July 1764
10 September 1799
Private -
For William Marsh
My dearest William, As I am persuaded and indeed rest confidant that your knowing what will come to you after my death, will not induce you to spend more than is absolutely necessary, or then you would have done without this information, I judge it therefore necessary you should be acquainted with every particular of my Fortune and intentions, which I have sent you inclosed; being as I ever have, and shall be, to my last breath, your truly affectionate Father, George Marsh, Blackheath, 10th September 1799
Note - be without a Will of your own. G.M. .............................. Blackheath, 10 September 1799
Memorandum for my dear and beloved son, being entirely satisfied and truly sensible that he will comply with my wish, and respecting what follows and therefore think it unnecessary to have inserted any thing more in my Will than I have done. I desire to be buried at as little Expence as possible by my wife and Family, my Coffin to be put upon my late son George's close to the side of my Wife's in my Vault in Gillingham Church and too of a morning, if my death should happen in Winter short days to prevent the confusion and Racket that always attends burials by Candle light. Sidden junior of Rochester is an Industrious and I think a very honest man, who could send the Coach and Hearse, or the Hearse at least,from thence and conduct the burial. I have had a plain monument provided by Mr.Pierce, Stone Mason at Deptford, and if my son has no objection, I wish to be indulged with that piece perhaps of human folly of having the Inscription wrote thereon agreeable to the inclosed,with such alterations however, if any, as my son may judge proper, and placed as near and low can be, with that of my Families now in the said Church. What I have written thereon or rather mean to have written, I know from my heart to be Facts and and therefore cannot be deemed with truth to my son, who it may be supposed has inserted it ouf of affection to my memory, as flattery to it. But should some people think so, it will not make it the less true, that it was done by myself and being conscious it is not the produce of Vanity, but intended only as a lesson for the loving Reader to do the like. I was from this motive only induced to have such an inscription on my monument. As Mrs Ray is truly deserving every thing that can be done for her Interest and Comfort, she having very long and faithfully served in my Family particularly with great care, affection and tenderness to my wife and daughter in their long illness, who both had the greatest esteem and love for her; and she having also since their death, acted with the utmost Fidelity, honesty and economy in the management of my house and Servants and am truly satisfied she never could or did connive with, or receive poundage from Tradespeople, or any kindof Bribe to wrong me, for which praise worthy uncommon good conduct, I have the greatest gratitude for her, and for thse several reasons, I reommend her to my dear Son, for every kind office he may have it in his power to confirm her. All my wife and daughter's Cloaths I gave to Mr.Morrison's daughters, Mrs Paterson and Mrs Ray some years since. Such article of my Goods, linen and in short of every other Article she may want, I desire my son will furnish Mrs Ray with, to make her as comfortable as possible. And tho' she has a good income of her ow it is my intent for this purpose to leave her as is mentioned in my Will. She has also made her Will of this date and given the greatest part of her Fortune to my Son's Children. In case of my dear Sister may not be so happy after my decease at Mr.Morrison's, which however I have no reason to fear, only as young people grow up they are not in general fond of living with old persons, and therefore if it should ever happen that she may not be so happy at my worthy friend Mr.Morrison's (crossed out - which however, I have no reason to fear,only as young people are not in general fond of living with old persons, but should it eer happen) It is my earnest request that Mrs.Ray may have the care of and live with her. My house in Dartmouth (Ron, Road?) will I think sell for £800 at this time I mean the leases, the old one will expire in 1903 for which I only pay 15 (£?) a year Ground Rent to Lord Dartmouth, but from the expiration thereof I have a new lease for 14 years for which I have agreed to pay £30 per annum for the Ground Rent. And am certain there are many persons who would readily give that money for it especially if sold with the furniture standing in it, which would also sell well or such part of it as my Son may judge proper to sell. Some of my Naval Accounts may be valuable to those who are fond of Naval Accounts. Mr John Marsh has a large folio in a Red cover containing many of those and Victualling Accounts wiht four other books on the same subject which I lent him. Indeed Naval Affairs have been so altered lately that they are not now, of that Use as they were, but nevertheless contain much information. If my Son has no objection, I think Rings should be given to Sir John Henslow, and to that truly worthy man, Sir William Rule, Mr.Palmer, Mr.Nelson, Mr.(Story?) and Mr Kingdom of about five Guineas each. And if my son Judges it advisable (as perhaps in his situation it may be) to make no distinction, to give each of the other Members of the Board a Ring of the like kind, all which I would wish made by an Working Jeweller and a particular Friend of Mrs.Ray's with a large Family who is a very ingenious in that business. And I wish something of the like kind may be given to Mr Thomas Penn of Rochester who transacts my affairs at Chatham and is a very exact grateful honest man, and perfectly knows how my dear relatives are placed in my Vault at Gillingham, and will see that my Corps are placed therein as I have desired my son, they may be. If my son thinks (Daysh?) and Hyat may be useful to him he will, I conclude, give them Rings. George Marsh.
File 0499
The Inscription left by my dear Father as his wish to be put upon his Monument in Gillingham Church Inscription draft
To the Memory of George Marsh Esq., late one of the Principal Officers and Commissioners of His Majesty's Navy, who died the (blank) He served in various Naval departments (blanck) years constantly with indefatigable attention and fidelity; was appointed in 1763 one of the Commissioners for Victualling His Majesty's Navy; and by the King's command in 1772 a Commissioner of the Navy. Prudence equity and order were sen in all his concerns and Temperance was the companioin of his Life Charity, humanity and benevolence were always upper most in his Heart. For these purposes he limited his own desires and expences, which produced the sublimest of all satisfaction, an independence in his Soul, superior to all contingencies, and opened the source from which the noblest of all Earthly enjoyments are derived. He possessed good health, cheerful spirits, and a large share of happiness, but nevertheless he did not neglect the most material of all concerns, the preparing himself for his certain dissolution, by dayly kneeling and offering praise to Him, for these blessings, whose Throne is Universal and who seeth in Secret. Something like the above both as to matter and form. I think may not be improper; subject however, in every respect to such alteration as my Son's good sense my judge necessary.
File 9862
Large legal document -
Will of George Marsh
10 September 1799
I George Marsh Esq, one of the principal Officers and Commissioners of his Majesty's Navy being in good health of body and of sound and disposing Mind and Memory and Understanding do write and publish this my last Will and Testament in Manner following (that is to say) First I order and direct that all my just Debts and funeral expenses shall be fully paid and satisfied as soon as may be after my Decease I give and bequeath to John Marsh Esquire one of the Commissioners for victualling his Majesty's Navy and Frances Morrison of the Tower of London Esquire, their executors and Administrators the sum of one hundred and sixty pounds per annum Bank Long Annuities part of a sum of one hundred and eighty pounds per annum life Annuities, now standing in my name in the Books of the Governor and Company of the Bank of England for and during all the term and time that may be therein to (come?) at the eime of my decease Upon Trust as to fifty pounds per Annum part thereof to pay or cause the same to be paid unto my dear Sister Mary Duval for and during the term of her natural life and to and for her own sole and separate use and benefit And as to fifty pounds per annum other part of the said sum of one hundred and sixty pounds per annum Bank Long Annuities upon Trust to pay or cause the same to be paid to Maury Patterson the wife of Captain Gilbert Patterson of the Marines for and during the term of her natural life to and for her own sole and separate use and benefit And as to fifty pounds per annum Bank Long Annuities other part of the said sum of one hundred and sixty pounds per annum life Annuities upon trust to pay or cause the same to be paid to Mrs Elizabeth Ray now living with me for and during the term of her natural lifeto and for her own sole and separate use and benefit And as to ten pounds per annum Bank Long Annuities the remainder of the said sum of one hundred and sixty pounds per annum life Annuities upon Trust to pay or cause the same to be paid unto Ann Moore, may Cook Maid for and during the term of her natural life to and for her own sole and separate use and benefit And I do hereby direct that the said respective sums of fifty pounds per annum, fifty pounds per annum Bank Long Annuities so bequeathed by this my Will as aforesaid shall be paid unto the hands of the said respective Legatees as they shall severally become entitled to the same under and by virture of this my Will and that the same or any part thereof shall not in any manner whatsoever be subject or liable to the debts, control or engagements of the husband or husbands of any of or other of them or of any person or persons that they or any of them may hereafter marry And that the receipts of them only shall at all times be sufficient discharges for the payment of the said respective sums and every part thereof And after the respective deaths of the said Mary Duvall, Maury Patterson, Elizabeth Ray and Ann Moore and as they shall severally and respectively die then the said sums of fifty pounds per annum, fifty pounds per annum, fifty pounds per annum and ten pounds per annum Bank Bank Long Annuities are to sink into and become part of the Residue of my personal Estate. Also I give unto the said Elizabeth Ray sum of one hundred pounds And unto James Morrison the Elder, Esquire one hundred pounds And unto my Godson George Shee, son of Sir George Shee, Baronet one hundred pounds And unto my Godson George Marsh, son of the said John Marsh Esquire one hundred pounds And unto Francis Marsh of Weovil near Gosport Esquire one hundred pounds And unto Ann Paterson and Mary Patterson the daughters of the said Captain Gilbert Patterson fifty pounds each And unto Ann Thorpe formerly my servant but who now resides with her brother (blank) Metcalfe a Shipwright in his Majesty's Dock Yard at Chatham twenty pounds All the Rest and Residue of my estate and effects whatever real or personal or of what nature or
of this my Will hereby revoking all former wills by me at any time heretofore made
William Marsh of Knightsbridge Esquire, his heirs, Executors, Administrators and Assignes- - - -hold the same unto my said son William Marsh, his heirs, Executors, Administrators, and Assigns for ever And lastly I do hereby appoint my said son William Marsh sole Executor of this my Will hereby revoking all former Wills by me at any time heretofore made
and do declare this to be and contain my last Will and Testament In Witness whereof I the said George Marsh, the Testator have to this first sheet hereof set my hand and to the second and last sheet my hand and seal this tenth day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety nine - George Marsh XX Signed sealed published and declared by the said George Marsh the Testator as and for his last Will and Testament in the presence of us who in his presence at his Request and in the presence of each other have subscribed our Names as Witnesses to the due execution thereof - William Batley Geroge Atkins (Frist?) Everest
Extracted by Bishop - -Wheeler Proctors in Doctors Commons
1800
File 9831
Printed diary page Memorandums, Observations and Appointments in February 1800.
Monday 3 February 1800 - My dear sister Mary Duval was buried in the Tower by her daughter this day.
Tuesday 4 February 1800 - At the Office and Bank
Wednesday 5 February 1800 - Ditto. d should have been here.
Thursday 6 February 1800 - Received India dividend 52.10. (Greta?) Hall, Ann' Mrs Marsh - 201. ( 20.10.0 under)
Friday 7 February 1800 - Ditto.
Saturday 8 February 1800 - Not at the Office today, dined with my son and went to Broad Green. Sunday 9 February 1800 - At home all day
File 0494
Letter
Sunday, 16 February 1800
From - George Marsh, Blackheath,
To - William Marsh
My dearest William, being sensible to my declining health, it is my earnest wish that as I have paid Mrs Paterson for some time past at the Rate of £60 per annum by Quarterly payments of £15 that although by my Will (indeed the only one) made in September 1799 I have left her for her Life only £50 per annum, that you will give her £10 more per year so as to make it £60 per annum from the day of my decease and continue it to her and her daughter for their lives in the manner mentioned in the said Will during her and their lives. For though your late brother was imprudent and very unhappy in his conduct, which occasioned much uneasiness to me, yet I never shall forget his good qualities and that he was my affectionate son on which account I wish to do what seems to me to be proper for his offspring. George Marsh
Diary book - other side of page from above accounts Memorandums, Observations and Appointments in February 1800 Monday 10 Feb - at the Board Tuesday 11 Feb - ditto Wednesday 12 Feb - Ditto. At Salters Hall, Mr Bawsely &co ill. Paterson and Algilyey(?) drank tea with us. Thursday 13 Feb - ditto Friday 14 Feb - ditto Saturday 15 Feb - ditto - got Hobbws and sons and Anderson over door (?) Sunday 16 Feb - At home all day
180 - 5 Sept - Miss Sarah Marsh Account DATE ? February, Second Month - XXVVIII Day (Week 6) Account of Monies - Received - Paid or Lend My Son, Jn Marsh, Mr Morrison, Cols Smith, Doctor Robertson, Rev Mr Towne & Mr Bingly, attend the burial Rec'd on 6000 3#6 consold - £90.0.0
3200 ditto standing in name of Wm (Ormes?) £40.0.0 1150 Mr Marsh - £17.5.0 700 m mine & Mrs name as trustees for her - £10.0.0 2000 £5 # bh Navy my own - £50.0.0 1100 £3 # 6h consols (clu) Penfold - £16.0.0 put in my drawer - £232.5.0 Received yesterday from Nicoll part of the £ ch & tax the Collectors received of him see the particulars among my B accounts The sum received back was £5.1.5 ¼ Paid Marks for Burying my Sister - £52.6.0
File 9860
Document envelop
Marsh Papers - To be kept in Marsh Box
File 9861
Document with many notes on it. 13 notes
Probate of the Will of George Marsh Esq. deceased. Dated 15 Nov 1800 note - Cons Long Ann Register 5844 note - Bank At 7099 Red - 1388.. Ks 14383 note - £4 paid Anne Reg. note - £3 per Cent Reduced Reg 15647 Lg Gt Acct. NB note - £3 per Cent Reduced annuity Reg. 15278 ly BB note - Cons 3 per Cent Ann Reg GO11777, of M
File 9875
Legal Document - 1800
John, by Divine Providence Archbishop of Canterbury, Primate of all England and Metropolitan, do by these presents make known to all Men, that on the Fifteenth day of November in the Year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred, at London before the Worshipful Maurice Swabey, Doctor of Laws, Surrogate of the Right Honorable Sir William Wynne, Knight, Doctor of Laws, Keeper, or Commissary of our Prerogative Court of Canterbury, lawfully constituted the last Will and Testament of George Marsh, one of the Principal Officers and Commissioners of His Majesty's Navy, late of Blackheath in the County of Kent, Esquire deceased - hereunto annexted, was proved, approved and registered; the said Deceased having whilst living, and at the time of his death, Good, Chattels or Credits, in Divers Dioceses or Jurisdictions, by reason whereof the proving and registering the said Will, and the granting Administration of all and singular the Goods, Chattels and Credits, and also the auditing, allowing and final discharging the Account thereof, are well known to appertain only and wholly to us, and not to any inferior Judge; and that Administration of all and -ill was granted to William Marsh Esquire the Son of the said deceased and sole Executor named in the said Will he having been already sworn - well and faithfully to administer the same, and to make a true and perfect Inventory of all and singular the said Goods, Chattels, and Credits and to exhibit the same into the Registry of our said Court, on or before the last day of May next ensuing, and also to render a just and true account thereof Given at the time and places above written and in the eighteenth year of our Translation, George Gostling Deputy Registrars Nath Gostling R.L.Cusswell
File 9775
Lord Nelson's Letters -
Not to be Generally opened. (old, ripped envelop)
File 9776 (by Louisa M-C?) Lord Nelson's letters on business to our Grandfather at the Messrs Marsh and Creed - who were partners in the Navy Agency attached to the Great (Benterythem?) in Berners Street, 2 Marsh, Strachey, Graham and Fauntleroy.
-to / both Creed and Fauntleroy were sons of - -- (faithful?) clients and were raised by my Grandfather - - -partners in the several concerns of the two respective businesses, both were men of comparatively low origin - Fauntleroy ruined both houses by his dishonest dealings. My grandfather behaved nobley in the fall of his fortunes though the public never knew how nobley. -
envelope? 2nd Nelson's letters to our grandfather. Private William Marsh - who was his Navy Agent as well as old friend
File 0408
Letter
23 & 24 October 1800
From - Sir Andrew Hammond to my father, this letter and in consequence of Lord Spencer. 23rd October 1800
Sir Andrew Hammond's letter to my Father, stating that he had seen Lord Spencer on the subject of his Retiring from the Navy Board with a Baronetcy who was not averse to the same and recommending his writing his Lordship as the means of bringing it to a speedy issue &c. Also copy of the Letter written in consequence by my Father to Lord Spencer &c.
File 0381
To - George Marsh Esq., Commissioner Marsh, Blackheath
From - A.S. Hammond -
Red wax seal (Sir Andrew Snape Hammond, 1738 - 1828. Comptroller of the Navy)
Private Navy Board,
23 October 1800
My Dear Sir,
I have again had a conversation with Lord Spencer on the subject of your being created a Baronet and retiring from the Navy Board. As he did not appear averse to the proposal I recommend you to write to his Lordship, and signify to him your wishes to retire accordingly, which will be the means of bringing the matter to an immediate issue. I am with very sincere esteem and regard, My Dear Sir, your faithful, humble servant. A.S. Hammond
File 0384
Letter draft -
24 October 1800.
To the Right Honorable Earl Spencer &c &c &c.
Copy of a letter for Lord Spencer from George Marsh Esq., in consequence of Sir Andrew Hammond's letter to him of the 23rd herewith.
From - George Marsh, Blackheath, Friday afternoon, 24th October 1800
My Lord,
I have this day received a letter from Sir Andrew Hammond from which I understand that my wishes respecting a Baronetcy and Retiring from the Navy Board might from my repeating them to your Lordship be brought to a speedy issue.
I have now neither Health or Spirits enough left my Lord to enter into any retrospect upon this subject - nor do I wish it, but only briefly to say that if this point could be immediately accomplished it is the only object I have left to wish for in this World, after a long life spent in the Service of my King and Country, and I will add (because my feelings cannot now deceive me) with an honest zeal and integrity that with my latest breath I shall wish may never be wanting in the Public Departments of any Country -
I am, My Lord,
Your Lordship's most obedient and humble servant, (signed) George Marsh
P.S. After several week severe illness, my state of nerves will not permit (crossed out - especially upon this subject) of writing myself or I am afraid even signing my Name very Legibly, which I trust will be excused by your Lordship as I have requested the favor of Sir Andrew Hammond to deliver this letter to you.
Saturday 22 November 1800
Ipswich Journal
In consequence of the death of George Marsh Esq., one of the Commissioners of the navy, the following arrangements will take place: Commissioners Heartwell, from Chatham to the Navy Board; Hon. Duncan, from Halifax to Chatham; J.Nicholson Inglefield, from Gibraltar to Halifax; and Capatin Coats, who is agent for prisoners of war now in France, is promoted to a Commissioner and appointed to Gibraltar.
File 0396
Letter
My Dear William, Dr.Robertson gave me your letter, and I learnt from him the State in which he left your dear father. I have not been able to see Pollock, but Sir Andrew has just informed me that he has not seen Lord Spencer since Saturday morning, and therefore does not know whether he has had any answer from Mr.Pitt who is on a visit to the Speaker's. He, Sir Andrew, will let me know if he hears any thing tomorrow on the subject. My idea is that it is allnow too late!
We got home very safe. Remember me affectionately to your good woman and believe me, Ever Yours,
J.Marsh
P.S. I send this by (our?) Deptford Messenger.
File 0285
Letter
7 December 1800
To William Marsh
From Sir George Shee
My dear Marsh, I write to you with an anxious hope that your spirits are, by this time, re-established, for although few sons have ever had such a Parent to lament as you have lost, still you should recollect that it is the province of a strong mind like your's, to reconcile itself in all cases to what is inevitable.
Be assured both Betsy (Elizabeth Maria Crisp) and I have sincerely sympathised in your sufferings. I have had thoughts, for some time past, of mentioning a matter to you which I trust you will not think me officious in touching upon. Your Father's Claims on Government were very considerable; indeed, if allowed by the Minister to hear any (Proportion?) to the Services connected with them, he can not deny that you inherit a right to any Favour within the bounds of moderation you can ask.
Now my dear Marsh, it unfortunately happens that Claims, if not preferred when recent, are seldom acknowledged at all. I do not know how you may feel disposed in respect to Honours, but I am convinced, although deserving of no great estimation if measured by a Philosophical Standard, they are of infinite Service in the general Bustle of human affairs, your loss may, at least, be of this Opinion; - and even on this ground I would not suffer the present opportunity to pass. An Irish Peerage is now probably out of the question, but an English Baronetcy would, I should think, to a certainty be within your reach, and you can not err in the mode of soliciting it. I mention this Matter entirely on a supposition however, that you are not engaged in any other political pursuit. I do not recollect that your Father stood for any other of our Children than George and John, and whenever you may wish to pay the Legacies you mentioned in your letter, to Betsy, Messrs LeFevre, Curries and Company will receive the amount for my Boys.
Betsy joins me in kindest Regards to Mrs Marsh and I ever am, My dear Marsh, most faithfully yours,
George Shee. Dublin, 7 December 1800.
1801
Saturday 10 January 1801
Morning Post.
Birth On Wednesday, at Knightbridge, Mrs Marsh, wife of William Marsh Esq., of a daughter.
Wednesday 4 February 1801
The Naval Asylum. Established at Clarence House, Paddington Green, for the Maintenance and Education ofthe Orphans of Sailors and Marines At a Committee of the Governors of this Charity, held at the Treasurer's House, Berner's Street, on Friday the 23rd day of January 1801 William Marsh Esq., in the Chair, - It was resolved that the following address to the Public at large be made by this Committee.
(long statement) - - Benefactors and Annual Subscritions for the Support of this Charity will be received by Messrs Masrh, Sibbald and Co, Berner's Street, - -
File 0284
Receipt -
Embossed receipt stamp on paper.
Received 17 August 1801 of William Marsh Esq, Eighty four pounds 14/- in Account of Sir George Shee Bart., being one year's dividend for Lady Shee from her Uncle's Estate. £84.14 (Lefine Cuneis Esq. (?)
File 0281
Letter
5 October 1801
To - William Marsh Esq.,
My dear Marsh,
I have received your Account stating that the Balance due from you (ledadsSpar?) as acting Executor to your late Father who was surviving Trustee to the late Milbourne Marsh Esq., £237.16.32 together with a Draft for the same which I acknowledge to have received and will give you a formal Release for your Trust so far as it concerns Lady Shee and me whenever it can be drawn out.
I also acknowledge to have had transferred to my name on the same Account £350 three percent Consol, which (leaves all level?) between us except a Legacy of your Father for £100 to me for George a Draft for which was likewise enclosed in your letter. My dear Marsh, ever faithfully yours, George Shee Whitehall, 5 October 1801. I will thank you to describe me as Undersecretary of State, London. G.
5 October 1801
Mr George Shee Bart., acknowledging the Receipt of my Drafts for the Ballance due to Lady Shee, as one of the Residuary Legatees of Milbourne Marsh Esq., and also for one Hundred Pounds the legacy from my dear Father to his son George, requesting the Share of the Consols Lady Shee is entitled to, namely £350 Stock should be transferred to his Name as Under-Secretary of State.
1803
file 9778
Letter -
10 December 1803 -
Lady Nelson
To Msrrs Marsha and Co. Norfolk Street, Strand, London. Exmouth
10th 1803
My Dear Sir,
I have had no one thing to communicate which has caused my silence. I hope Mrs Marsh, my God-daughter and family are well, a few lines from you would give me pleasure. I remain here some time longer, we have had no snow but I think it cold and stormy. How is Mr and Mrs Fauntleroy, I sincerely feel for them,
Make my compliments. I cannot write. My book of Churches are just finished and I will thank you to desire the Banking House to send a Book of Checks immediately as I shall direct, and it will be sent with other things which I stand in need of. No specie to be hand. Remember me kindly to Mrs M.and all your family.
And believe me your very obliged, Sir Francis Nelson x Bronte Mrs Vassal 64 Upper Seymour Street.
I see by the News papers the Prize Cause is gained(?) I am glad of it.
1804
File 0227
envelope
John Marsh Esq., Victualling Office,
(Private) Secret and Confidential (H.M.S.) Victory at Sea, 24 February 1804
My dear Sir,
This is on the subject of Agency and meant for Mr.Marsh and you in confidence. My former letter to you on this head mentioned His Lordship's intentions of dividing any principal concern in that way between Mr.Davison and Mr.Marsh, men for whom he had the hightest regard, both for their friendship and the integrity of their principles, such was the communication he made to me, which you will naturally believe afforded me infinite pleasure, not on account of the former, who I did not know, but of the latter who I know and with gratitude regard. It however since appears as the good Lord has told me, that Mr.Davison's applications for the whole has been so repeated as to oblidge Lord Nelson to acquiesce and grant the request in a private and confidential conversation on this subject he told me such was the case, and that he must either do so, or offend and quite St.James's Square for ever,and in justice to that great and noble character I declare he is distressed on the occasion,for of Mr.Marsh he speaks with warmth of attachment and sincere regard, and I am sure he feels more on the occasion than he can express, and I assure you my dear Sir, it equally concerns me.
Mr.Davison is kind in certain quarter and there the heart strings lead, inspite of the Noble Chief. I have much to say on this, but shall leave it 'till we meet, the present is in justice to the candour I owe my friend, as well as to the great and meritorious Lord of whom I am writing, and whose heart spurns the idea of wrong. Mr.Davison writes him that whatever part of the Agency he wishes me to receive, that he will pay it with pleasure, only that he wishes to have the honor of being considered as the Sole Agent on any great occasion, which certainly in the event of an Action with the Enemy will be the case. I never have on any occasion (hinted) self, but he told me my Interest in that should not be lost sight of, he knows the side I lean to and feels painful on that account, but
File 9847
8 March 1804
I, George Edward Graham of Chaily in the County of Sussex, Esquire, do truly acknowledge to have received of and from William Marsh of Knightsbridge in the County of Middlesex (Esq?) the surviving Executor of Mary Graham, late of Epsom in the County of Surrey, my late Mother deceased all my share and interest in and (be ?) the Estate and Effects of the said Mary Graham given, devised and bequeathed to go in Trust for me under the last Will, Testament and Codicil of the said Mary Graham deceased as witness my hand the Eight day of March 1804. G.E. Graham
File 9766 -
Torn paper envelop
Feb 14 August 1804
from Lord - -and his secretary
---ticular From Guillim's Heraldry Index to Hani's History of Kent, Marsh in East Kent, Quarterly Gules & Argent - in the first quarter a Horse's head Argent; of Marshton. Ditto page 193 East Langdon lies towards the East end of Kent, about three miles north eastward from Dover, in the Bailiwick of (Eestry, Nunhed and Cornils, (Iath?) of St.Austin. It is the deanery of Sandwich and Diocese of Canterbury. In the Church are memorials of Marsh, Paramour, Clumer and Masters. sometimes wife to the late Right Hon. & thrice worthy Sir William Russel, Lord Russel of Shoreham deceased has descended whose several(?) virtues deserve to be published by a more skillful pen.
1806
File 9777
Letterhead - Linley Wood, Talke, Staffordshire Pass. Station Alsager, Parcels, Harecastle Stn., L.M.S. Telephone, Kidsgrove 41
Victory at Sea off Toulon 1803 - 24 Feb 1804 - Scott - Nelson - 6 Menton - 3 May 1802 - Neson - 3 No Plea - 18 February 1804 - Nelson 5 Menton - 15 July 1802 - Nelson 4 off Malta - 27 Feb 1800 - Nelson C21 Fondroy (Foudroyant?) out at Sea - 18-20 Jan 1800 - Nelson C11 Confirmation of (ufal?) and Splendid victory dated off the Nile - 1 August 1789. No Name or address - 7 (Dapeld?) 8 Dated off the Nile - 1 August 1789 - Dover S. 19 November ( Lady Nelson) Gold (Great?) Malvern - 19 July 1806 - Lady Nelson a lock of hair. 9
Victory at Sea - 24 Feb 1804 - John Leahy(?) gives his opinion of N. (Chanade?) Clifton 25 Oct 1806 - Lord Nelson - -
July & October 1806 Lady Nelson's letters - enclosing me a lock of Lord Nelson's Hair. 1890 - note - The above hair of Lord Nelson placed in the frame of his wax portrait - which belonged to our Grandfather William Marsh Esq.
1807
File 0403
Letter
28 April 1807
From - Knightsbridge
Dear Sir,
From the friendship and attention my late dear Father ever experienced from you, I hope you will excuse the liberty I now take of inclosing you a detail of some (crossed out - former transactions) some recurrances which I have extracted from a Diary he had kept for many years, and which indeed passed also under my own observation and knowlege. I feel it therefore (crossed out - quite) unnecessary to enlarge to you Sir upon his Merit as an old and faithful Servant of the Public. It is with regret that I add it has since come to my knowledge that the disapointment he experienced in this object embittered his last days more than I at the moment believed or could have imagined.
I have stated why since his death I have not hitherto felt much desire to endeavour to pursue this object.(crossed out - but being at the heart of a Banking House every day) but being the first Partner in a Banking House every day increasing in character and stability, and my Eldest son also on the point of leaving Cambridge, and as far (edit - a young man just of Age) can be judged likely of everything I could reasonably hope and wish (edit - likely not to disgrace any situation in life) I confess I feel - - to do justice to my Father's Merits and Character by soliciting you Sir for the Honor of your friendship and Patronage to humbly recommend this case to his Majesty's Gracious Notice, (crossed out - and that I hope ) I - - But being the first Head of a Banking House every day increasing in Character and Stability, and my Eldest son also upon the point of leaving Cambridge, and as far as a Young Man just of Age can be judged if most likely to do credit to any Situation, I confess I feel these points as strong additional reasons for wishing to do justice to my Father's Memory and Merits, by thus soliciting you Sir, for the honor of your Friendship (crossed out - and Patronage) to humbly recommend this case to his Majesty's Gracious Notice.
I will only add that from him I inherit a respect and attachment to your Lordship's Family that whether you are pleased, or not (edit) to honor this application with your (crossed out - support) patronage, will also ever cause me to remain with my sincere wish ( and support at far as my humble endeavour can go) for your permanent and complete triumph in your present noble and arduous situation, and while I trust you will soon find honored, to be, also the Universal wish of the Country.
I am, Dear Sir, Your attached and most obedient humble servant. W.M. (edit)
I will only add that from him, I inherit a respect and attachment toward you and your Family that would to my feelings, add a great additional value to (this?) favour by (removing?) it from your hands, but whether you are pleased or not, to honor this application with your Patronage, be assured it will also ever cause me equally to remain with very sincere wish (and support as far as my humble endevour may be able to go) for your permanent and complete Triumph in your present noble and ardous situation and which I trust you will soon find proven to be also the Universal wihs of the Country. I remain, dear Sir, your attached humble servant. .W.M.
File 0398
Draft letter - 1807 ?
Commissioner Marsh on the 21st August 1795 wrote to Lord Spencer, then First Lord of the Admiralty, in consequence of a conversation (crossed out - as) settled between him and Mr.Gambier, then Secretary to the Navy Board, and who gave him to understand his Lordship would expect it, that he was willing to (crossed out - quit) retire upon the usual pension and upon being created a Baronet, (crossed out - and upon the usual pension) saw his Lordship (appointment) a day or two afterwards who received him and was very complimentary upon his long faithful service &c., and assured him that now he knew his mind he might depend he would take an early opportunity of bringing the business forward to Mr.Pitt and settling it.
A short time afterwards (crossed out - however) it having been pointed out to his Lordship thatthe Report of the Commissioners of Account favored a new modelling of the Navy Board,this plan was adopted and two or three new Commissioners appointed, Mr Gambier one, and as the proposal to Mr.Marsh originated in the wish to serve - - - Lord Spencer appeared to cooled upon the business and (crossed out - Mr.Marsh not pushing the same? and dropped till L: Aug - - - (edits) - - -Aug 1798 when Mr.Gambier came to the Office and reported that both Mr.(Nepean?) and his brother the Admiral then one of the Lords had told him the business was settled, and that Mr.Marsh was to Retire upon the Pension and with a Baronetcy andto be succeeded by Mr.Towry. The news papers also next day state that arrangement. Mr Marsh thought this very singular and extraordinary, as he had no otherwise than as above stated heard a word upon the subject for the last year (18 months) and so (crossed out - the business) it remained for 5 days viz. to until the 7th August when Mr.Marsh attending officially a General Court of Greenwich Hospital, at the Admiralty , Lord Spencer after the Business was over took an opportunity of returning with (cross out - him) Mr.Marsh to his Room and expresing his concern and surprise that the intended arrangement should have appeared in the Papers before he (his Lordship) had had an opportunity of mentioning it to the King.
Mr.Marsh replied that his Lordship could not be more surprised than he had been, never having been honored with the least intimation of the Business,but from Mr.Gambier's information and the newspapers, but that its getting into the latter was not to be wondered at when his Lordship would please to recollect that one of the Lords of the Admiralty and their Lordship's Secretary had publickly mentioned the same.
Lord Spencer made some general and evasive answer and the business again rested 'till Mr.Marsh's last illness when Sir Andrew Hammond having called upon him their conversation turned upon these points. (crossed out - and Mr.Marsh concludes) Sir Andrew upon a review of all circumstances (crossed out - and Mr. ) felt them so strongly as to be induced to review the subject with Lord Spencer (edit - one from Sir Andrew - - to Mr.Marsh after his having seen - - Mr.Marsh's letter in consequence to his Lordship) and what occasioned the letter herewith.
Had Mr.Marsh lived 'till after the Levee on the following Wednesday it is highly probable this business would in consequence have been (crossed out - settled) honored with his Majesty's - - dor as Mr.Marsh was personally well known to the King both through the introduction through the Earl of Egmont and Lord Sandwich and particularly during his Majesty's (coming?) to the Dockyards, when he had almost the honor of attending his Majesty at an early in the morning (crossed out - when at Portsmouth) and before the other Members of either Board were (stirring?) &c &c.
It should be remarked that in August 1798 and on the Sunday preceding Lord Spencer's conversation at the Admiralty with Mr.Marsh, the King had spoken to Mr.Towry on the Service at Windsor and wished him joy of his removal to the Navy Board, and upon Mr.Towry thanking his Majesty and observing that it was not yet (crossed out - done) the case, his Majesty (crossed out - in his usual quick way) replied No No, but it will!!
What induced Lord Spencer therefore to stop this Business apparently of his own wish in this case - last instance in particular ) Mr.Marsh could never learn or imagine. About 3 months after his Father's death Mr. William Marsh saw Sir Andrew Hammond and who mentioned to Lord Spencer his (crossed out - his wish and desire) still hope that his late Father's earnest wishes might still be brought forward under his Lordships Patronage, but as Mr.Pitt's administration were then retiring from Office his Lordship told Sir Andrew he did not feel that he could with propriety bring forward the business. His Majesty's long illness that immediatly followed and Mr.Marsh's frequent absence from Town on account of Mr.Marsh's health has prevented him from again attempting to revive the subject.
File 0322
Letter
30 November 1807
From - William Marsh, Knightsbridge, London
To - Admiral Lord Gambier.
My dear Lord Gambier,
I am infinitely obliged to you for your kind attention to the case of my friend The Rev. (William?) Gordon, but I observe by the letter from the Transport Board your Lordship was so good as to enclose me (and which I now return) that the Case has been a little misunderstood.
Mr Wolfe was removed from the Chaplaincy of Verdun in November 1805, to the Depot at Givet, in order to attend to the proper Disposition of the Relief afforded to our People at that Depot, from this Country, under the Direction of the Committee at Verdun. It was with difficulty the permission for this removal was obtained from the French Government, and it is not probable they would now permit Mr.Wolfe to return to Verdun, if he was no longer of use at Givet, but the fact is, that the latter Place will always require a Man of Mr.Wolfe's character and profession, and of course "his Functions have not ceased" because he is Exercising them at Givet, and cannot therefore possibly be of any further Personal use at Verdun, and where it appears, from the enclosed Certificate and Order from Sir Thomas (Lavie?) that the Rev. Wm.Gordon has ever since done the Duty in a most exemplary manner at that Depot consisting of near 1,200 British Subjects, many of them Young Naval Officers and also been particularly active and useful in the Committee Instituted for their Relief.
Under these Circumstances therefore I submit to your Lordship whether Mr.Gordon has not a just Claim for some Remuneration for this Volutary, though laborious, and important Duty, equal to what is allowed to the Rev.Mr.Wolfe, and that both these Depots require the Functions of a respectable Clergyman, for it might as well be said, there being a Chaplain at Portsmouth, none can be allowed at Chatham! It should indeed appear from Sir Thomas (Lavie's?) letter to me, which I take the liberty of enclosing to your Lordship, that he submitted this Case to their Lordships, whilst you was absent upon your late most important Commission, though Captain Woodriff, and that he understood their Lordships were pleased to consider SirThomas's suggestions upon this subject in a favourable light. I am certain no Man can more quickly and properly appreciate the value of an Examplery Clergyman in such a Society as the Depot at Verdun, than your Lordship, and I will only add that I am sure no Clergyman could be selected for this Station who would do more credit to his profession and Country than my friend Mr.Gordon. I am always with great attachment and regard, my Lord, Your Lordship's faithful and obedient humble servant, William Marsh P.S. Your Lordship must be fully aware of the increased difficulty and delay in Corresponding with Verdun and my last letter of the 4th of October were brought by Captain DIllon. I would therefore wish to submit to your Lordship whether Captain Sir Thomas Lavie's ORder and Certificate of Mr. Gordon's having performed this Duty for the last two years might not be deemed by their Lordships as a "Certificate by proper Authority that Mr.Gordon has done the Duty of the Chaplain at Verdun."
File 0239
Letter -
12 December 1807
From Norfolk Street
Sir,
On behalf of the Rev. William Gordon M.A., Rector of Dunstew in Oxfordshire and now a detained British subject at Verdun we beg leave to state to you for the information of their Lordships that from Nov. 1805 he has voluntarily, and constantly performed all the arduous and various duties of a Clergyman, in the most regular and exemplary manner and to the Universal satisfaction of near 1200 of our fellow subjects of different descriptions at present Prisoners at that Depot.
That we believe this meritorious conduct of Mr Gordon was stated to their Lordships by Captain Sir Thomas Laver and others through Captain Woodriff upon the latters return to England, andwe beg leave to inclose Sir Thomas's Certificate in Proof of this (Habiment?) and which can be further corroborated by Captain Dillon and all other officers, who may have recently arrived from Verdun. We therefore with great diference presume to hope their Lordships will be pleased to consider Mr Gordon as entitled to the same remuneration from Nov.1805 and during the period he may continue to officiate, that was allowed to the Rev. Mr Wolfe, and who is now stationed at Givet, and we are therefore to (file 0240) entreat you will please move their Lordships to give an order to this effect. We are with respect, Sir Your most obediant and humble servant. The Honorable W.W.Pole, &c.&c.&c. Marsh & Creed. (continues on same page) Knightsbridge, 12 December 1807 My dear Lord Gambier, I am sorry that some particular Business in the County has prevented me from attending to my friend the Reverend William Gordon's Case, since I last had the pleasure of seeing your Lordship - (know?) this rate and application will be made to their Lordships in the usual manner by Messrs Marsh & Creed, enclosing Captain Sir Thomas Lavers (now, hand?) and Certificate to Mr Gordon &c, and at the same time that I thank your Lordship for your past attention to this business, and entreat your (present?) support to the application (if it appears to you as it does to me, namely one of those Cases highly deserving of a suitable reward).
I beg leave to assure your Lordship nothing short of the thorough knowledge of Mr Gordon's merit, as a man and a Clergyman and conviction that he has and continues to perform essential Service to the Depos at Verdun, could ever have unduced me to mention this Case to you being always with the sincerest attachment and respect, your faithful and obediant servant, William Marsh I return your Lordship herewith your Lordship's the letter from the Transport Board (next page - File 0241) Mr Gordon has been particularly unfortunate in his Pecuniary Concerns. He was Tutor to Sir Henry Dashwood's sons, and who gave him the Living of Dunstew, at that time a very small one being principally open common lands. It has since been enclosed by Act of Parliament and a certain portion of the land allotted the Rectory in lieu of Tithes. The expense of this enclosing of Mr.Gordon's Farm, before he could let it to any advantage, has swallowed up three or four years of Rent and burthened him with a Debt of about Seven Hundred Pounds. Mr Gordon was therefore glad about three or four years ago, to accept an offer from Lord (Langstock?) and his sister Mrs Stour to take the Charge of her son, and his Lordship's Nephew, then about 17, but extremely backward in every branch of Education and to Travel with him until he came of age and for which (there, third?) Parties bound themselves (as far as words could go) that Mr Stour would then settle an Annuity upon Mr Gordon. They were both detained in France whilst upon their Tour. Mr Stour 2 years ago made his escape and is now in Jamaica, where his greatest Estate is. Mr Gordon's Bills however, were till lately (6 months ago) regularly paid by Mr Burton & Long for this Annuity.
Mr Long is not now Mr Stour's merchant, and he has so over-drawn his present one that Mr.Gordon's Bills have been to his infinite distress returned (Probested?) (reprised?) therefore of this just claim, and no Revenue as yet to be got from his Living, poor Gordon's Case is most undeservingly pitiable.
To this must be added the Mortification of losing the opportunity of being Tutor to the Marquis of Blandford's sons now at Eton, by this cruel detention in France, and which was kept open for him as long as possible by the Marquis, for as Lady Blandford is Sir Henry Dashwood's Niece, Mr Gordon merits are well known - - -(next page) - - - in that Noble family. Mr Gordon's Character may I think be run by his having voluntarily stepped forward upon the removal of the Rev. Mr Wolfe to Givit to take upon himself the heavy Duty at Verdun; and had not his unexpected and unjust failure of his Income happened, would probably have continued his Functions without making this applicaiton, but I am sure to your Lordship's just and upright mind, this application will have its due weight. I ought to have added that I believe Lord Caryfort and Mrs Stour feel this conduct of Mrs Stour's exceedingly and will do everything in the power of a Mother and Uncle to do, but this is distant and uncertain, and in the meantime fear Mr Gordon is doing a great and beneficial Public Duty, and Starving!! I am sure I need say no more to your Lordship, indeed I am sorry my intimate knowledge of the caase has led me to trouble your Lordship with the long retail. Admiralty House. 16 December 1807
(Same page) Dear Sir, I have the satisfaction to inform you that an Order has been issued for the payment of Mr.Gordon for the time he does the Duty of Chaplain at Verdun at the Rate what Mr.Wolfe was paid at. I am, Dear Sir, Your sincere humble servant. "Gambier" William Marsh Esq.,
File 0277
Letter To -
The Rev.Wiliam Gordon,
To be sent to Messrs Marsh & Creed.
From - Admiralty Office,
15 December (1807)
Sir,
Messrs Marsh and Creed having, as your agents, applied to my Lord Commissioners of the Admiralty for an allowance to be granted to you, in consideration of your having officiated as a Clergyman to the British prisoners of war, at Verdun, I am commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to acquaint you that directions are given to the Transport Board for paying you at the rate of two hundred pounds a year on your producing a Certificate from the Senior Naval Officer, at Verdun, of your having regularly performed the duty. I am, Sir, Your very humble servant. John (Samual? Bamue?)
File 0410
Letter
15 December 1807
From - Admiralty Office,
To the Reverend William Gordon, at Messrs Marsh & Creed.
Sir,
Messrs Marsh and Creed having as your Agents applied to my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty for an allowance to be granted to you in consideration of your having Officiated as a Clergyman to the British Prisoners of War at Verdun, I am commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to acquaint you that Directions are given to the Transport Board for paying you at the Rate of Two Hundred pounds a year on your producing a Certificate from the Senior Naval Officer at Verdun, of your having regularly performed the Duty.
I am, your very humble servant, John Barrow. My Dear Gordon, I was duly favored with your kind letter of the 4th of last October by Captain Dillon, or rather I believe by Mr.Neilson, enclosing one to me from Captain Sir Thomas Lavie and also a (blended?) Order and Certificate from this Gentleman to you, Certifying that you had performed that Duty of Chaplain at Verdun, and also Authorising you to continue the same, as far as his Power went - immediately upon the receipt of the same I waited on Lord Gambier, and who was so kind as to Interest himself so far as to have a letter written to the Transport Board to state the Case, but who in their answer merely stated "That the Rev. Mr Wolde's Functions had not ceased (the question the Admiralty had asked) but that he was doing Duty at Givet!!
His Lordship was good enough to send me this answer, which you see was completely mistaking your Case and my request, and I therefore thought it better to make at once a Public and usual Application through Messrs Marsh & Creed to the Honorable W.W.Pole, the Secretary, a copy of which dated 12 December you have in the enclosed sheet, together with my private letter a Statement of your Case to Lord Gambier, under the same date, and his Lordship's obliging answer of the 16th and you have on the other side a Copy of the Order alluded to, Signed by Mr.Barrow, the joint Secretary of the Admiralty.
I have since been at the Transport Office and they would have paid me from November 1805 as far as 1st of July 1807, the date of Sir Thomas Lavie's Certificate had I had a Power of Attorney from you and could have ascertained the day in November 1805 you commenced your Functions. Mr McLeay their Secretary therefore told me they would write you to draw for the amount, and accompany the same with a Certificate from the Senior Naval Officer at Verdun that you have Regularly and constantly performed the Duty of Chaplain from - November 1805 to the same day in November 1807 inclusive, and so continue to send a similar Certificate and Draft every succeeding half year. (file 0417) - I think you had better make your Draft payable to this House or order and send it to us with the Certificate, unless indeed you can get the Cash for it at Verdun, and then you must make it payable to those who may give you the money for it - before I close this, I shall know and will tell you whether the Property Tax is to be deducted from this £200 per Annum, and if so, how it is to be managed.
I must now beg the favor you will make my compliments and best wishes to Sir Thomas Lavie, with many thanks for his obliging letter accompanying yours of the 4th of October, and as this will be brought you by Mr.Clive, and who probably will be loaded with letters, I hope he will excuse my troubling you to acknowledge and thank him for his few lines to me.
You will perhaps think I have been rather prolix in this detail and copy upon copy of letters to you, but in your situation I consider circumstances of (file 418) - of a trifling nature are of more consequence than more important ones would be were you at liberty in this country. I hope you will think I have not been Idle in this concern, and that it will afford you some comfort, and I should be equally or more happy if it ever was in my power to help you in your Concern with your friend at Purley!! and indeed you do me but bare justice in believing I should be happy to assist you at all times and upon all occasions.
I conclude you Affairs at Dunster are in good hands. Mr Walker or some such local friend. I have never yet met Captain Dillon, he lives a little way out of Town and calls occasionally at the Salopian Coffee House. I have several times missed him by 5 minutes and he me as we have called upon each other half a dozen times. I wrote him last week of the success of this appointment to the Admiralty, and I had an answer from him to say "he had mentioned you to Lord Gambier." and that he would call upon me some day this week.
You will observe that I took the liberty of mentioning him in our letter to the Admiralty, and possibly he may therefore have been asked what he knew of the Case as to your performance of the Duty &c. I only brought my Family up from Willes last Wednesday week and till then I was much backwards and forwards, but now I shall make a point of seeing this gentleman and shewing him any civility in my power on your account.
If I cannot gain him such good Claret and Burgandy ashe had at Verdun, you know I can find some good Madeira and old Port, and I heartily wish you could be of the Party to taste them! They are all well at Kirtling too, and will I think be up in about 10 days more, but as Mr.Clive says he thinks he shall be going about Thursday next, I wrote them so by this Post,and I dare say I shall have a letter or two from Sir Henry and Miss Dashwood for to trouble Mr.Clive with for you. I hope you will think my memory (secured?) me very correctly in my detail about you in my private letter to Lord Gambier. The copies I send you are written by my son George,for I had not much spare time just then, but they will be plain enough for you to make out I hope. Our good friends at Chaileys are well and always happy to hear of any thing they think will be (pertaining?) to you, but not more sothan he who is always, My Dear Gordon, most truly yours. William Marsh
You will observe that the Transport Board in their letter to Sir Thomas Lavie say that your Bills must be approved by himself and Captain Lyall, or the two Senior Officers who may be at Verdun. I therefore think the shortest way will be for those gentlemen, at the foot of your Bill just to say "We do hereby Certify that the Rev.Mr.Gordon has duly and regularly Perforemd the Duty of Chaplain to all the Prisoners of War and other British Subjects at this Depot between, such a day, and such a day" "Witness our Hands." You will observe my Postscript to Lord Gambier was longer than my letter, but I did not feel I had said a word too much.
9th January 1806 (1808?)
I have just seen Captain Dillon and he has explained to me why you could not attend to my letter in April last. I send this to Mr.Clive who has been so obliging as to let me know he is writing to Verdun. I also send the letter from the Transport Board to you and also another to Sir Thomas Lavie which settles the Business, only you will observe you are to deduct the 10 per cent before you draw.
I wrote to our friends at Kirkington last Monday of Mr.Clive being about to return and thought they would have sent me a letter for you before this but I conclude they are from home. One more adieu, William Marsh Let me hear from you as often as you can.
That is the 6¼ percent to April 1806 and at the 10 percent, only from that period, and also that you may draw Quarterly.
Document - 1807 ? - 1810?
A Statement of Mr Graham's Fortune as put into Settlement with his marriage with Miss Foster. £1,000 Indi.St. (states as worth £2,000) £1,0-00 Bond of Mr George Graham's £1,000 Bond of Milikin (Gray?); His Commission in the Dragoons stated to be worth 3 but only sold for £2,000; His Mother's reversionary (jointure?) £2,777.13.6 - 3/4 parts which sold for £2,000 making a total of £8,000 - which has since been dispersed as follows. 13 February 1795 - Mr George Graham paid off his Bond of £1.000 which was (settled?) on the 21st same month in £550.11.01 Int. in the names of Goster and (Tom?) Graham 3 July 1795 - The Trustees sold out this £550.11.01 In.st producing £1.111.11.5 and advanced it to Mr Graham as a part of the £3.000 authorized by the Settlement (as to do?) 3 November 1795 - Received a part of the sale of Commission £500. 23 November 1795 - Received a part - - ditto - - £1050 July 1796 - Received a part of - - - ditto - - £200 10 March 1797 - Received a part of - - ditto - - £276.108.6 Total and Interest - £2,026.18.6 Dec. 1795 vested £1839.7.6 in 900 Ind.St. in the names of Fd.Graham - 4th February 1796 vested £213.12.6 in 100 Ind. in F.&G. making a total of 1,000 Ind.St. costing £2,053.0.6 Thus a clear statement of the sale of the Commission appears. 6 May 1798 - Mrs Graham's jointure fell in £2777.13.6 3/p cents and was sold out producing £2,000 and will appear hereafter vested as a par of the Mortgage of £3,000 to Col. Passingham 10 May 1801 - Miliken Gray paid in his Bond of £1,0000, whichy was paid to cover Mr Graham's debt at Messrs Marsh & Co., and must be considered as another part of the £3,000 as allowed by the Trusttees to advance. 13 October 1801 - The Trusttees advanced £1,000 Ind.St producing £2,105 towards the purchase of Mr.Graham's Estate at Chaily. 31 July 1802 - Sold out Mrs Graham's jointure of 3/p cents producing £2,000 which becomes payable in August 1810. 31 August 1809 - The Trustees advanced £1,667 Ind.St producing £3,109,14,6 for the purposes of Mr.Graham's entering a new Farm he had hired called Stantons in Sussex. 667 (Ind.) of which was the original £70 per Ann Long Annuity of Miss Foster as placed in Settlement and was transferred from the Stock into this 667 (Ind.) and 805 by order of the Trusttees. November 1807 - The Houses at Lynn in Settlement of Trust were sold for £1750 of which Mr.Marsh's bills for Act of Parliament and his own account - £343.12.10 Remains clear on the sale of the Lynn Houses - £1406.7.2 The Trustees lent on Mortgage for the purchase of Mr.Cripps Estate being contiguous and to improve Mr.Graham's Estate at Chaily. £900.0.0 Remains in hand in Exchequer Bills in the names of Dr.Foster Pigott and Wm.Marsh Esq. £506.7.2 Account of monies received by Mr.Graham since the Sums stated in the original Settlement. By his Mother's Will - Ind.Stock - 118 - sold for 4 percents - 11 - sold for 3 percents - 51 - sold for Long Annuity - 78 - sold for- - - -£4,600.0.0 House in Great Cumberland Street - 96 - sold for - -£1,400.0.0 (total) £6,000.0.0 Mrs.Graham's Legacies and debts were about £2,000.0.0 (total) £4,000.0.0 by the Estate of the Rev. Wm. Graham. £300.0.0 By the sale of Stock on the final issue of the Kinross Business - £8,000.0.0 Total £13,600.0.0
In hand of the above deduct Mortgage to Mr.Passingham £3,000.0.0 Of the £3,109.0.0 say that Mr.Graham's part of that India Stock being 1,000 Ind. produced by this calculation about £1,000 (total) £4,800.0.0 Remains unaccounted for - £8,800.0.0 The Trustees being empowered to advance £3,000 by the original Settlement may fairly be deducted from this responsibility - £3,000.0.0 (total) £5,000.0.0 The Chaily Estate mortgage to Mr.Verrall for £1,000.0.0 Ditto - ditto - to Messrs Marsh & Co. £6,000.0.0 the (Chailys Estate) bought of Mr.Cripps ditto to Trustees - £900 (total) £7,900
Whatever therefore Chaily should sell for more than this £7,900 will go to the liquidation of the £5,800, but should the (said?) Estates not even fetch more than the £7,900, the Trustees in themselves would yet be indemnified as certainly not accountable for monies that never came within their Trust, but the culpability can alone rest with Mr.Graham, as from this £5,800 it will be observed as above that Mr.Graham's accession of Fortune was £5,600.
1810
File 0228 L
etter - neat hand-writing
To Richard Creed?
from Nelson's Secretary
Secret and Confidential (faint text under - L Sea ce?)
Victory at Sea,
24th February 1810
My dear Sir,
This is on the subject of Agency and meant for Mr Marsh and you in confidence. My former letter to you on this had mentioned His Lordship's intentions of dividing any principal concern in that way between Mr Davison and Mr Marsh, men for whom he had the highest regard, both for their friendsip and the integrity of their principles, such was the communication he made to me, which you will naturally believe afforded me infinite pleasure, not on account of the former, who I did not know, but of the latter who I know and with gratitude regard. It however since appears as the good Lord has told me, that Mr Davison's applications for the whole has been so repeated as to oblidge Lord Nelson to acquiesce and grant his request, in a private and confidential conversation on this subject he told me such was the case, and that he must either do so, or offend and quit St.James's Square for ever, and in justice to that great and noble character I declare he is distressed on the occasion, for of Mr Marsh he speaks with warmth of attachment and sincere regard, and I am sure he feels more on the occasion than he can express, and I assure you My Dear Sir, it equally concerns me, Mr Davison is Kind in a certain quarter and there the heart strings lead, in spite of the Noble Chief, I have much to say on this, but shall leave it 'till we meet, the present is in justice to the candour I owe my friend, as well as to the neat and meritorious Lord of whom I am writing, and whose heart spurns the idea of wrong.
Mr Davison writes him that whatever part of the Agency he wishes me to receive, that he will pay it with pleasure, only that he wishes tohave the honor of being considered as the Sole Agent on any great occasion,which certainly in the event of an Action with the Enemy will be the case. I never have on any occasion (limited?) self, but he told me my Interest in that should not be lost sight of, he knows the side I lean to and feels painful on that account, but that there are circumstances which oblige Men to Act in Contradiction to their judgment and inclinations, that every happiness may attend you with the blessing of health will ever be the wish of My Dear Sir, Your Sincere and Attached friend, (W.M.Kelly? Scott?) Nelson's Secretary
Richard Creed Esq.
File 9990
Note
1st March 1810
Dr.Foster Piggott on subject of our friend Mr Graham's Trust concerns - with my answer of the 2nd inst.
File 9960
1 March 1810
Dr Foster Pigott with my answer of 2nd The Doctor's of the 4th and mine of the 5th. Also of the 7th in answer to his of the 6th and mine of the 8th after a communication of the whole to Mr Graham the Evening(?) before.
file 9979
letter
1st March 1810
Dr Foster Piggott with thoughts of giving up his Trust.
to William Marsh, Berners Street, London
My Dear S
ir Our friend George informed me of Passingham's death, and that he should be able to (secure?) from the Insurance Office the £3,000 or 5 for 600 (besides?) That this had happened fortunately as Verrall had called in his Mortgage of £1,000, and that with the remainder £2,500 he wished to liquidate just so much of his debt to your House.
Some circumstances, I am free to confess do on this occasion most forcibly strike and affect my feelings/ In the first place this identical £3,000 ought to have been brought to Settlement at the time it was laid out in this Mortgage, and last year when we released to him all the Stock that remained in Settlement. i.e. not only this same money, but even Mary's, it was then suggested, I think by himself, that Passingham's Mortgage should be brought to Settlement. In my answer. I told him that I should have no objection to expropriate £1,000 to pay off Verrall's Mortgage, but
file 9983 all circumstances I desired him seriously to weigh the other part of the proposition. George has dipped deeply into his wife's fortune; he has not only received the funded property, but also what arose from the sale of the Houses at Lynn. But not a sixpence of his own has ever been added to the original Settlement. I must take the liberty of speaking my opinion freely to you.
It has happened to me, as a Trustee to a Marriage Settlement to save my own Sister and four children from absolute ruin, by resisting for many years of her Husband's life similar encroachments on the Settlement Money. And I did this at the (expense?) of an inveterate (Verrall!?) In respect to Graham, as far as relates to myself, I must confess that I think it is time to pull up, but that I may not wish a dispute were either either himself or my dear niece, I am variously considering whether it would not be expedient for both parties that I should (unittadsraw?) my name from the Trust, and suggest to George to supply my place with some other friend, Mr Darlton(?) for instance; rather than by continuing Mary's Trustee be a ban to any further accommodation, that may happen to be thought requisite in future. I am thinking of this with infinite reluctance, with compunction for having already sacrificed so much of the children's interest, but with readiness to meet any blame or responsibility for my negect or acquiescence from any future Trustee. With our best regards to yourself and family believe me my dear Sir, your faithful and obliged servant. (Dr?) Foster Piggott. Mereworth, Tonbridge, 1810
File 9985
letter from W. Marsh, Berners Street,
to Rev. W. Foster-Piggott
2 March 1810
My dear Sir,
I am favored with your letter of yesterday. In August next in consequence of the death of Mr Passingham our friend George will certainly receive from the Equitable Office, Blackfriars Bridge, £3,000 and I fancy as this Policy has now existed upwards of seven years it will according to their excellent plan be entitled to £500 - £600 bonus, but how far George will be entitled to retain this surplus from Passingham's Estate, I have grave doubts as I have stated to him, although there cannot be any that he will have a clear right to retain the arrear of Interest to the day of his Death and also a triffling Lawyer's Bill, he has paid.
In other words, his Principal, Interest and all other expenses he may have been at - but as Passingham always paid the Premium, and as according to the Mortgage Deed, this Principal was only (accounted?) as a Collateral Security for the Principal and Interest, I apprehend both these being (satisfied?) neither Law or Equity will give the then surplus, probably £400, to George, but it will belong to Passingham's Personal Estate. In this light I think George will also view it, when he comes read the Deeds and consider the question and
file 9986 - - -
and should he not then be satisfied, it will be easy to take an Opinion upon the point - however this will be in time next August when the money is payable. The other part of your letter arrests my most serious attention, and I cannot but accord with the truth and propriety of your remarks and feelings upon the question.
At the same time, I am apprehensive your withdrawing yourself at this juncture would remedy no evil that has taken place, and be of infinite prejudice towards the future to say nothing of the Operation it would have upon George's and dear Mary's minds and feelings, and really think this would be so strong as to incapacitate them from all future exertion.
Your statement has brought to my recollection that at poor J.Ward's something to the purpose you mention passed between you and George upon the subject of Passingham's Mortgage but I conclude it was in so cursory a manner and so blended with other matter that he forgot it because when Verral called in his this Mortgage he proposed (it not being possible then to foresee Passingham's death so soon happening) to the House to advance this further sum of £1000 and to take this Security in part for their debt wasting(?) the Chapter of Accidents when they might get it. This in fact would have made his situation better and would have releived his Estate of that £1000, and paid us in part with an (then) indefinite Security, though eventually certain. I think it right at this moment to state to you in some measure as a justifcation of myself, that it was - - - -
--- was only recently I knew or thought anything about this Trust, and in the most general way, when poor William Graham died George asked me to join you in it as his successor in which I cheerfully acquiesced. (crossed out - you will recollect I am aware that) and from that period 'till the other day when I did sign the Deed , about the time 12 months, here the matter had settled. When I say this I by no means intend, or wish to evade, orget off from any trouble, inconvenience, or risque to which you are liable but on the contrary to go warmly hand in hand with you, and meet all effects from our negligence, indolence, confidence, or whatever epithet may be bestowed upon us, but I do not wish to conceal from you, that if you withdraw yourself, I will not stay. We are the men that have permitted the Evils to arise and we are the only ones that ought to stand in the Gap either to apply present remedy, or to prevent future (evuime?) of them. Our intentions have been "negatively" good, and this is all we can say. Now for this House. They never knew, nor do I believe, at this moment they know, anything about George's Settlement but always considered they were advancing him money upon the faith and credit of his Estate at Chailey enabling him thereby to hold it, until he could meet with a liberal purchaser. You know I do not take and active part here in daily concerns and you will be perhaps surprised to hear that until some time after the death of my late Partner, Mr Fauntleroy, I had no idea of George's Debt to the House being at over one fourth what it is.
Mr Fauntleroy and all here had a most friendly liking towards him, and under the impression of friendship and useful support they went the length things now stand at. No debt can there have - - - stronger hold upon honor and friendship than the claims of this House, and it has for the last year and a half been a point George has (urged, used?) not to press him to a sale of his Chaily Property, as it has been a favourite object in his mind to give the (refusal) to his brother Robert, whose return to England may now be expected next summer.
It is only recently that I have attentively looked at this case and seen and felt it at all in the light I now see you do, and I have therefore most anxiously wished for a full communication and conversation with you upon this subject, and waiting for this opportunity I have been more upon the reserve and less communication upon this himself with my friends here, than is pleasant to me, or I feel I ought to have been. I was much disappointed therefore at missing you the other day, more especially as you left word you would call again. Your letter therefore has anticipated one from me on the subject as I expect George in town every day. I find Mr Shiffner(?) wrote him two days ago to come up immediately that I know not for what, but he met my son and told him this. George was waiting till he found the Duke of Norfolk was in town. I shall probably see him tomorrow before this letter goes (for it is now too late for this Post) but I have not yet determined whether I shall shew it him, and yours or wait till I am favored with your reply. No, my dear Sir, we must not now abandon the concern. Whatever errors we have both run into they have soley arisen from thoughtlessness and confidence, and on poor George's part I am equally certain they occurred from error in judgement only, and for awhile I am (called?) he has, and still does most seriously suffer,and I really believe if you was to withdraw your (Countenance?) and friendship from him - - -
-- him and we were both to abandon him and his Trust that he would never struggle through it (crossed out - and that it would be more friendly because more humane to George - - - ) In that I cannot think upon this part of the subject but with horror at the miserable situation he (and of course his family) would be reduced to, if we throw him into the hands of strangers. Let us meet and investigate the concern to the bottom, and then (added - only can?) digest some plan which if it will not cure (a thing not rational to expect) the Evils, will at best prevent their getting worse. I am with sincere regards, My dear Sir, faithfully yours, - Wm Marsh (to Rev. W. Foster-Piggott, Mereworth) P.S. I have no letter this morning from George, but there is one from Windsor addressed to him here, which leads me to conclude he will be here in the evening. Sat. 3rd March
File 9970
Letter 4 March 1810 - (1816?)
To William Marsh, Berners St, London.
My Dear Sir,
Whether you, I, or George himself has been most blameable, it is certainly now useless to enquire. I will only say for myself, that I should not have agreed to do the Settlment unless I had thought it fair and honorable to both Parties, that I have relied on a general understanding and promise that it would in time be fulfilled. First by the money arising from the Sale of the Commission, next by many expectancies held out at the time, but lastly and principally by the Settlement of Mrs Graham's affairs.
I clearly understod last year, that your House, as you state in your letters, relied as a Security for the Debt to them on the Sale of Chaily. By acquiecing in this, clearly gave in just so much of what ought to have been brought to Settlement. I at the same time as clearly understood that Passingham's Mortgage , the whole of it, was to be brought to Settlement.
This last in some (preashac?) reconciled me, though (seamssess?) it did not reconcile my honourable friend Ward, to the (act?) I was then consenting to. Nay, understood that a Bond or Instrument as a sort of indemnity to the Trustees was to be prepared, in - (file 9969) which this mortgage was to have a prominent place.
My surprise, I own, was never exceeded as well as my shame for what I had done and for what I had not done in respect to the settlement, when I received George's letter dated the 20th ult which announced the death of Passingham, and contained the proposals in Question, to pay off Verall's mortgage with £1,000 and with the remained liquidate just so much of the Debt to the House.
After what had passed, I thought I considered enough, nay much more than I can justify for assenting to pay off Verall's Mortgage, and by submitting the second part of the proposition. In answer to this in a letter dated 25th, he says "He is placed between two points of honor, and admits that his settlement ought to be a primary object."
Still however to my concern and vexation the same thing is pressed? again, and indeed again from another Quarter. Under the impression which this gave me of the total (inutility?) of a Settlement which was to be violated upon every occasion of the dishonourable office of the Trustee who so assenting to such violation, and of his unthankful performance of this Duty, if he refuses his consent I wrote my letter to you.
I have candidly expressed my Sentiment to you, and after revolving it over and over again in my mind, I feel that I cannot in justice to the Children and my own conscience Herein? from my purpose, as far as it still allowed us to act in executing the Covenants of the Settlement; Namely, that it is my fix't opinion that £1.000 may be appropriated of (Passingham's ?) money to the payment of Verall's mortgage, by which the estate of Chailey will be so much improved as to it's real value as a security to the House; but that the remainder whatever it may be, ought to be carried to the Settlement. The written points of myself, or not, fromj the Trust will be regulated by a serious consideration of the interests of those who are most dear to me; and it will not finally take place without the deepest reluctance. I will thank you to reserve this letter till I have the pleasure of seeing you next week in town. I was so required by my poor friend Ward's funeral (hole in paper) who has left me a very gratifying token of his regard, that I could not see you before I left London. He write in kind remembrance to yourself and family, and I you, believe me, my dear Sir, ever yours obliged and affectionate G. Foster Piggott (Col. George Edward Graham Foster Piggott - 1771 - 1831 of Chayley, Sussex - brother of Frances Marsh.
file 9972
Red wax seal on envelop
6th March 1810
to William Marsh Esq., Berners Street, London
From Dr F.Piggott with my answer of the 7th March
My Dear Sir,
I had your favor this morning, of which I should not have troubled you with an acknowledgement, if the same Post had not brought me one on the same subject from George and another from Mary. This being the caseI request of you to communicate the contents of my two last letters to George, as I cannot more fully explain my sentiments, nor with more satisfaction to myself by writing to him.
Believe me, my dear Sir, with great regard, your ever most sincerely,
Foster-Piggott. Hereworth G.M
Letter 7 March 1810
From Berners Street.
My dear Sir,
I am favoured with your letter of yesterday. I have not had a word from George on the subject, but now I know you wish it, I shall take an opportunity this evening of fully communicating to him your recent letters and my answers.
I beg have to assure you that the letters you mention to have received yesterday from him and Mrs Graham were until I read your letter utterly unknown to me, for as I have just said I avoided the subject until I had had some personal communication with you, or found it your wish as I now do, that I should shew him your sentiments - for the same reason with-held back from any (possible?) conversation with this House on the subject since I communicated to them George's proposal for us to take the Policy and pay off Mr Verral the £1,000.
I take this occasion to say that I feel myself in so awkward a situation, and so equally and honorable bound to you, and to the House, that I am perfectly Neutralised, since I must (ahuause?) cordially
File 9964
8th March 1810 -
Copy of my letter to Dr. F.Piggott, after my Communication with Mr Graham (on the subject ofhis letters) the evening before.
File 0235
Letter
21st June 1810
G.E. Graham's Statement with his Trustees.
To The Honorable Montgomery Stewart, No.6 Berners St, London From Chaily,
21st June 1810
My dear Marsh,
I yesterday got a very kind letter from Foster and as he talks of being in Town tomorrow for his Duty at St.James's Chapel and that he shall endeavour during his short stay to see you and have a little conversation with you on the Subject of my unfortunate affairs. I've been busy this morning copying out the enclosed statements of account which I (told?) you some time ago I had sent him and Ward(?) the first opportunity to you, but have from some cause or other delayed it longer than I could have wished, still I trust it will be in time for you.
I believe it to be as correct as my poor head can make it; you will see that against my blessed Mother's bounty I have balanced her Legacies and debts, which to be (sure?) had I followed your good kind advice I should not have (agreed, acquiesced?) to have done, but alas! situated as I now am, I am necessitated to make it appear to lessen any future demand of my children against my Estate or reflections on me is they cannot conceive me to be bound for more than I have actually (received?) as I certainly did not ( - - ) any advantage from poor dear Mother's Estate till the year 1802, I think you will judge me right in taking a credit for it in this instance.
Your account of your poor dear George yesterday gave us infinite concern and drives me almost to despair of what poor dear boy he can be fit for.
I am glad to find you are better but I observe you are still very weak and really you must be careful in your convalescence. By your letter we rejoice that you are able to get in to Berners Street again but sorry indeed that you have had so much trouble about our George in consequence of yours this morning I sent to (fuch--?) after him, and this instant, 4 o'clock, the coach (supps?) with your good George's letter and tale of disappointment indeed, indeed I'm vexed at all the sad trouble you have had with our poor Boy, I really wish you had let him come with Robert, he is so careful a Coachman - - ?
File 0272
account notes - August 1810?
- G.E.Graham Esq., with the Reverend Dr. Foster Pigott and Wm.Marsh Esq., as Trustees. C. (Debt Page) July 1795 - Advanced by Trustees £550.11.8 Ind.St. which sold for - £111.11.6 31 July 1810. 6 May 1798 - Mrs Graham's reverted jointure fell in of £2,777.13.6 3per.cent and sold for £2000.0.0 - 10 May 1810
10 May 1801 - Miliken Craig's bond in 2 went to pay Mr.Graham's account at Mssrs.Marsh & Co. £1,000.0.0
15 October (1801) - Advanced by Trustees £1,000 Ind.St. towards the original purchase of Mr.Graham's Estate at Chaily which Stock produced - £2,105.1.0 31 August 1809 - Advanced by Trustees £1667 Ind.St. producing £3,109.14.6 (667 (Ind?) of which was the original £70 Long Annuity of Miss Foster transferred from that Stock and bought this 667 Ind. by order of the Trustees) for the purpose of stocking Mr.Graham's new farm. £3,109.14.6 (total) - £9,326.7.2 (Credit page) 31 July 1802 - Vested in Mortgage to Col.Passingham Mrs.Graham's 3percent jointure making 2,000 and added 1,000 more to it - - £3,000.0.0 10 August 1810 - Balance due to the Trustees on this Settlement for which they have a Bond on Mr.Graham's farming Stock which he holds will cover the £3,109.4.6 and the remaining £3,216.12.8 will be hard indeed if it cannot be found out of Mr.Graham's private Estate (though it is mortgaged to Mr.Verrall the original Proprietors for £1,800 and Mssrs Marsh & Co., for £6,000 making a total of 7) as on which and its consequences no less than £15,716.12.8 has been assented, and therefore it is to be hoped that then will get the good Security to the Trustees on this Settlement and particularly as this is independent of £3,000 that they are guaranteed by the Settlement in advancing, but which again must be admitted is (some?) in the present loan to the Farm, but still that is looked on as covered by the Stock. This is exclusive of the £900 advanced from the Lynn Money, which was not mortgaged on Mr.Cripps's Estate, being bought as contiguous and to improve Mr.Graham's Estate at Chailey. £9,326.7.2
1814
File 0307
Real estate brochure
Particulars of a Desirable Freehold and small part Copyhold Estate, Principal part Tithe-free and Land Tax redeemed, Situate at the Hyde, Adjoining the Edgware Road, comprising a very Eligible Farm, Upwards of One Hundred and Thirty-Four Acres of Meadow and Arable Land, with a barn, &c. A compact Cottage Residence, with Offices, At Colling Deep on the Road to Hendon; Two beautiful Rich Meadows at the Hyde, a Compact Farm House, situate at Hyde. The whole containing upwards of One Hundred and Fifty Acres which will be sold by Auction by Mr Robins, at Garraway's Coffee House, Change Alley, Cornhill, London on Thursday 25th August 1814 at Twelve O'Clock In Ten Lots. Warwick St, Golden Square. - J.Brettell, Printer, Rupert St, Haymarket, London.
Particulars of sale continue . . .
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Particulars
Lot 1. A Freehold Estate, Tithe Free and Land Tax redeemed comprising Two Excellent Meadows containing 14 acres, 2 r. 23p. adjoining the Lands of T.Boardhead and W.Smith, Esquires (hand written £1750) Reference to plan No.1 Three Acre Butcher Ley - 5 acres, 0 R., 10.P.
No.2 Further Six-Acre Butcher Ley - 9 acres, 3 R. 13.P. A Right of Road is reserved to this Lot through Lots II, III, and IV. from the Edgeware Road.
Lot II. A Freehold Estate Tithe-Free and Land Tax redeemed. ( hand-written £2,049) Comprising Two Capital Meadows Situate on the South Sideof the foregoing Lot, and adjoining the Lands of T.Broadhead and W.Smith, Esquires. containing 17 acres, 0 R. 3 p. etc/ page 4 containing 24 acres, 1 R., 28 D. (hand written - £2,750) adjoining the lands of T.Broadhead and Johnson Esquire - etc
Lot IV A very eligible Freehold Estate tithe free and Land Tax redeemed - - occupying a considerable Frontage on the Edgeware Road,with a stream ofwater, on which there is a Fine Scite for Building. on an elevation, commanding most pleasing and very interesting Views, containing 31 Acres,0 R., 17P. (hand written £3,020)
Lot V A very Eligible Freehold Estate - - comprising Three Enclosures of Meadow and Arable Land adjoining Lots III, and IV. and abutting on Edgware and Hendon Road,by Collin Deep; a stream of water running through; With a double barn &c. (hand written £2,930) - -
Lot VI A Freehold and Small Part Copyhold Estate Tithe Free and Land Tax redeemed, comprising a Compact Rural Cottage Residence pleasantly situate at Collin Deep, on the Road to Hendon, In the Occupation of -__Compton, Esquire, for an unexpired Term of Two Years from Midsummer 1814.The House is seated on a Lawn, with gravel walks, Plantation, Shrubbery, Pond of Water in Front; and contain, a neat Entrance Hall, papered; Dining Parlour, neatly papered, and Recesses on Each Side the Fireplace; Drawing Room, neatly papered, commodious staircase, and closet under; Good Kitchen, Dairy, Wash-house, wine-cellar &c., on the first floor Two excellent Bed Chambers in front, neatly papered, and a Dressing Room, closets &c., passage, Another good Bed chamber, and maid's room, over which there are two sleeping rooms for servants, and a store room; A good kitchen garden,well stocked and cropped, and planted with fruit trees; A well of excellent water. (hand written - £970)
Lot VII A Desirable Freehold Estate Tithe Free, and Land Tax redeemed, comprising two enclosures, meadow and pasture land - - 12 acres (hand written £340)
Lot VIII A very eligible Freehold Estate - - - commanding delightful prospects,and a most charming situation for Building. on the West side of Edgware Road, and adjoining Hall Lane, near the Hyde, in the Parish of Kingsbury. Hither Road Field, - 8 acres. (hand written £970)
Lot IX A desirable freehold estate - - and excellent meadow, abutting Edgware Road, an equally interesting spot for building . - - Farther Road Field - 6 acres - (hand written £790)
Lot X A Copyhold Estate comprising a Compact farm house situate at the Hyde, in the Parish of Hendon, with an avenue of fine grown timber trees, and garden in front, in the occupation of Mr Marner; consisting of an Entrance Passage, Parlour, Kitchen, Dining room, wash-house, Dairy &c. - - Stable for ten horses, Loft over; Chaise House, Cow house, calf pen, &c., a Cart Lodge and an orchard, ponds &c. containing one acres and twenty four poles. Copyhold of the Manor of Hendon, at a Quit Rent per Annum ...£ Fine according to the Custom of the Manor.
hand written
1740
2040
2750
3020
2930
970
1340
970
790
960
18,510
Saturday 13 December 1814
Royal Gazette of Jamaica
General Post-Office, London.
Sept. 17 1814
By Statue 39 Geo.III cap.76 (called the Ship Letter Act) the Postmaster General was authorised to receive letters directed to places within the King's Dominions, and to countries beyond the Seas, and to forward them by any vessels (although not Packet-Boats), and to take a rate of one half of the packet postage of letters conveyed by Packet Boats.
And by the same Act the Postmaster-General was authorized to take a rate of postage of 4d. a single letter, and so in proportion for letters brought by ships other than by the Packet-Boats, under certain regulations, from places abroad, into Great Britain. The first Clause in the above Act continues in force: - but - by an Act passed in the last Session of Parliament, 54 Geo III.cap 160, the above rate of postage of 4d. a single letter will cease on and from the 30th October 1814; and a rate of 6d. a single letter, and so on in proportion on double, treble, and ounce letters, will become payable in lieu thereof, in addition to an Inland postage which may arise upon the Internal conveyance of the letters - - -
The Postmaster-General will feel it his duty to enforce payment of the penalties on every breach of the law. By Command of the Postmaster General, Francis Feeling. Sec. General Post Office, Kingston Dec.16 1814 The above Act will be put into execution on the 5th January 1815. John Milbourn Marsh, Deputy Postmaster-General
1816
File 232
Envelope from - William Marsh Esq., 26 February 1816, Norfolk St,
to - James Caldwell Esq., Linley Wood, Lawton, Cheshire Sir,
I had the pleasure of meeting my son here on Friday afternoon, not having expected him 'till this week. I cannot therefore resist troubling you with a letter to assure you that the Happiness he expresses at the result of his Journey to Linley Wood, afford me the highest gratification as it also does that you have referred the final arrangement of all the necessary (Pacliminaries?) to your son and myself. Arthur, I find has explained to yoy my recent disappointment here! The Mortification on every account is severe, but I confidentially hope that "good will come out of Evil," and that this House will prove a source for progressive comforts and of ample Fortune eventually to Arthur, independent of any other means that may be open to him! What, however, is certain, your son and I will define and settle, and upon all points relating to the future, I can only assure you he shall receive the most candid Information in my Power. Mrs Marsh and my Daughters anticipate with all the warmth of Friendship and Youth the early and intimate Acquaintance with their intended Sister, yourself and Family and I as truly join in their feelings. At present however, I can only add that I remain with sincere respect, Dear Sir, Your most obediant humble servant, William Marsh
Thursday 22 February 1816
Exeter Flying Post
Plymouth Dock Water Works. Notice is hereby given that a Dividend of Six Pounds per Share will be paid to the Proprietors on the 26th instant, at the Banking House of Messrs Marsh, Sibbald and Co, No.6 Berners Street, London Edward Hicks, Agent. Plymouth Dock, Feb.16 1816
Friday 4 March 1816
Sun (London)
Annerversary Dinner
Tomorrow, March 2, in the Freemason's Tavern, His Royal Highness the Duke of York and Albany in the Chair - The Caledonian Asylum for Educating and Supporting such Children of Soldier, Sailors and Marines, Natives of Scotland, as cannot be admitted into the Royal Institutions of Chelsea and Greenwich, and of Indigent Scottish Parents resident in London, not entitled to Parochial Relief - President His Royal Highness, the Duke of Kend and Strathearn, - - - Tickets are One Guinea each, to be had of the Stewards; at the Asylum Office; as well as at the Bar of the Tavern - - -Subscriptions continue to be received at the Banking Housesofr - - -Messrs Marsh, Sibbald and Co - - -
letter continues ? From G. Foster Piggott Mereworth, Sonbridge, 4 March 1816 (1810?)
File 9965 letter
5 March 1816
Berners Street
My dear Sir,
I have you favor of yesterday. I am happy you accord with me in thinking it not the immediate question who is most to blame, and I must at the same time that you do not find in my letter anything like "pressing" any point but the thing now pressed to a point, and I shall be most happy to see and consult with you (after a review of all circumstances past, present, and to come) what is to be done! I do trust that we can never disagree in opinion upon the question - believe me with constant regard, Dear Sir, most sincerely yours. W. Marsh P.S. George, writes me he is to be at Knightsbridge tonight. I shall not say a word to him untill we meet, and the sooner it suits your convenience the better. (note at top) - You will understand that I write without any communication with the House.
File 9961 Letter
8 March 1816
From - William Marsh Berners Street,
My Dear Sir,
I wrote you yesterday morning in answer to your favor of the 6th instant. I had in the evening an opportunity of communicating to our friend George your letter of the 1st instant, and all that has subsequently passed between us relative to him and his concerns. I assure you he is most seriously affected (as I had supposed he would be) by the communication. In the first place, he begs leave most solemnly to assert, that dear Mary's letter to you, so far from being with his permission or consent, he had not the most distant idea of 'till I read him your letter - upon all other points he says he will endeavour to write you himself - poor fellow , he is most cut up
I find the money for his Commission which he swears was a (bond sale?) did go into India, in Trust and was released by you and I for the first Purchase of Chaily, and Stock and fixtures - That last year at poor J.Ward's he Executed a Warrant of (Administration?) by which he gave us a complete Authority and Security as far as the (Assets?) will go overall the Stock at Stantons upon our releasing the last of the India for this purpose. He also, you will recollect, made us Policy upon his Life at Blackfriars Bridge for £3,000.
These Instruments should, I think, be all collected together and Endowed and lodged in our Names either in the Strong Room at Mr Ashmore's, our late friend Mr J.Ward's successor or here, as may be judged most expedient - - - The (purchase?) of the Lynn Houses bought the Land and House opposite himat Chaily and is I think in our names. The Communication with George has occasioned me to notice more particularly than I had before done that part of your letter of the 4th instant in which you recapitulate your disappointment about the Money that ought to have been brought to our Trust, and conclude by saying "but lastly, and principally by the settlement of Mrs Graham's affairs."
I certainly as her executor did pay over to Mr Graham as her Residuary Legatee all the Balance of Property that came by this authority into my hands - and as certainly at that time it did not occur to me that I was possibly doing any wrong or committing any error, for as I have told you I had never read or considered about the Marriage Settlement, and I cannot but now be sorry we had not had our recent communications together before I did so pay it over, but I confess it did not strike me at the time - and I the more regret this as at that period there did not exist the smallest motive or (reason?) for our friend George to have wished it divided with any other Channel - but on the other hand the perfect knowledge and belief of this was one excuse, I suppose, why it did not strike me with the propriety and necessity of so doing.
This is a true statement, but how far it operates as an excuse for my negligence or want of thought I must leave to your candour to determine, and that I believe as I said, in my first letter we are, neither of us, without some share of blame upon these points. George has some Business at Window, and I wish to go to Eton (where by the bye I understand there has been a sort of Rebellion) to see William, after which we have agreed to go to (Witley?) togethe, as I have some concerns there to attend to. We set out tomorrow morning, and return to Town early on Monday morning. Believe me with constant (regain?) My dear Sir, faithfully yours, W.Moy (Marsh?) P.S.., I was too late to get a Cover for this letter last night and therefore shall leave it here today for that purpose. - Friday morning. 9th.
Wednesday 13 March 1816
Star (London)
Caldedonian Asylum
A Quaterly Meeting of the Guardians of this Corporation will be holden on Thursday the 21st Instant, at Three O'clock. - John Galt, Secretary. Caledonian Asylum Office, March 9 Subscriptions continue to be received at the Banking Houses of - - - Messrs Marsh, Sibbald and Co.
Monday 5 August 1816
Morning Chronicle
Association for the Relief of the Manufacturing and Labouring Poor. His Royal Highness the Duke of York, President. Subscriptions are received for the Association by all the Bankers in London and Westminster, at the Bar of Lloyd's Coffee House; and at the City of London Tavern. - - - Amount of Subscriptions already - - - At Messrs Marsh, SIbbald and Co. Mr John Marks, Portland St - 5.0.00 Mr Sterk, Somerstown. - 1.0.0 Matthew Ash - 1.0.0 Rev. Charles Stewart - 10.10.0 A.R. - 1.1.0 Capt. Searl R.N. - 5.5.0 Mrs Searl - 5.5.0 Mr Revenscroft - 10.0.0 Mr George Croft - 1.1.0
Thursday 19 December 1816
Morning Post
St.Mary-le-Bone Association for Relief and Employment of the Poor. Numerous families, hitherto a burthen to the Parish, have been already provided with work, at a considerable expense to the Association, and a great many more are applicants, for whose employment the Association is now making every exertion. Subscriptions Received.
-long list - - - Marsh, Sibbald and co. - £100.0.0 - - - Mrs Stracey - £5.0.0, - - - Wm Mason Esq., £5.0.0 - -
1817
Wednesday 15 January 1817
Morning Post
Naval Charitable Society
On the 6th instant, a Quarterly Meeting of the Members of the Naval Charitable Society was held at the Thatched House Tavern, St.James's St, at which were present- Admiral Lord Radstock,in the Chair; Vice-Admiral Hunter, Rear-Admiral Taylor, - - -Twenty five cases were presented for consideration, 18 of which were relieved, and seven rejected as inadmissable, being from the relatives of Officers not subscribed to the Society. This very laudable Charity, like all others, naturally experiences the severe effects of the extraorindary pressure of the present times; but so admirable and institution, we are persuaded, will not be suffered by a great nation and a grateful people to fall even to temporary decay - - - Donations and Subscriptions are received by the following Bankers, &c., - - Marsh, Sibbald and Co, Berners Street. - - -
Thursday 16 January 1817
Exeter Flying Post
Notice is hereby given that on and after the 3d day of February next, a Dividend of £6 per Share will be paid to the Proprietors of the Plymouth Dock Water Works, at the Banking House of Messrs Marsh, Sibbald and Co., Berners Street, London. Edward Hicks, Agent - Plymouth Dock, January 13, 1817
File 0278
Envelope For Mr Gordon Single William Marsh Esq., Willeyman, Farnham.
File 0279
1 March 1817
accounts William Marsh - Debit Prize Ledgers - £10.662.18.11 ditto A - £7353.1.2 B - £4,866.11.1 C - £5,857.9.11 D - £11,484.4.10 C.1 - £700.13.11 Acceptances. - £6099.2.0 12,444.7.4 Consols at 70 say - £8680.0.0 1100 5percents at par £1,100.0.0 (rip) R.W. 25,000 consols at 70 - £17,500.0.0 Loan from Simple - £5,000.0.0 Load from M.S.& Co. £3,000.0.0 Unclaimed - £7,193.13.6 (total) £89,497.7.4
William Marsh - Credit Ledger A - £10,197.9.3 Ledger B - £13.198.19.8 Ledger C - £30,625.13.0 Ledger D - £36,313.14.4 Cash at Martin's - £6,831.6.4 Cash at W.S. - £306.19.0 Policy J.W.William - £5,000.0.0 Policy Barker - £499.0.0 1/3 Ship John - £1,000.0.0 Brighton Estate - £1,000.0.0 L.C. Stock - £1,000.0.0 Cables Mortgage - £500.0.0 Smith's Estate - £1,000 13,000 Consols, Reversion at 707 - £8,100.0.0 375.14.4 Consols at 70 - £262.0.0 (total) £115.895.2.3 Deduct for doubtful debts - £18,966.13.5 (total) £96.968.8.10
.. £96,968.8.10 - (minus) ... £89,497.7.4 Balance due to William Marsh - £7,471.1.6
750 - TRH (?) 400 - Smyth 547 - Vaughan 60 - Temple 55 400 2697 + 1000 = 3697
File 0280
1st. March 1817
Abstract of Ballance in Norfolk Street - First year since the Dissolution of Partnership with Mr.Creed.
Monday 26 March 1817
Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser
Voughton v. Fueillard
The plaintiff, a clerk in the banking house of Marsh, Sibbald and co, brought an action against the defendant, a dancing-master, to recover compensation for criminal conversation with his wife. Mr Serjeant Best stated the plaintiff's case: - The acquaintance between the parties was of several years standing. The defendant, who lives in splendour, after becoming acquainted with the plaintiff, introduced himself to lodge in the same house, professing the warmest friendship for the husband, and was permitted occasionally to drive his wife to balls, &c., whilst by a taste for dress &c., she reduced him to embarrassed circumstances. The plaintiff, being in debt, was obliged to abscond; and being afterwards in prison, the defendant took advantage of his pecuniary difficulties to seduce the affections of his friend's wife. - - - -
Monday 22 September 1817
Morning Herald (London)
Afflicting Case - Mr James Marner, a respectable Port Butcher, residing at No.229 High Holborn, died suddenly on Wednesday, the 27th of August, 1817, while employed in his business. This awful event has left his Widow and Eight Children not only in extreme affliction, but entirely destitute of the means of subsistence. It is proposed to attempt raising from benevolent persons so much money as will enable Mr.s M., who is well qualified to conduct the business - - - Any Contributions for this purpose will be gratefully received, and may be paid at the house of Messrs Marsh, Sibbald and Co., Bankers, in Berners Street, Oxford Steet, London - - -
1818
Wednesday 4 February 1818
Morning Post.
Society for the Suppression of Mendicity, Crown and Anchor Tavern. Feb.2. W.Friend Esq., in the Chair. Amount of Subscriptions reported - £2,422,15,6 - - - - At Marsh, Sibbald and Co., John Hembrow Esq., £1.0.0
Monday 16 February 1818
New Times (London)
Committee in Aid of Destitute Seamen, held at the Kings Head Tavern, Feb. 14, 1818. - Subscriptions received at - - - Marsh, Sibbald and Co. - W.S. - £1.1.0 J.R. - £0.7.6 Mrs Tottingham - £2.0.0
1819
Wednesday 10 March 1819
New Times (London)
To the Charitable and Humane, a most Afflicting Case is offered to their consideration. Two Ladies (sisters) who formerly had a competence, have been totally deprived of it by the bad conduct of a Brother, who converted their entire property to his use when in embarrassed circumstances, unknown to them, which has reduced them to a perfect indigence, without one penny to support them even for the present moment, or the smallest prospect of recovering any part of their property in future. Any donations will be received at - - -Messrs Marsh, Sibbald and Co.'s Bankers, Berners Street - - -
Staurday 26 June 1819
Morning Post
Deaths. At Kingston, Jamaica, on the 21st of April, Mrs J.M.Marsh, wife of John Milbourne Marsh Esq., Post-Master General of that Island, and daughter of the late Dr.D.Grant M.D., of Jamaica.
Saturday 13 November 1819
Morning Post
A Lady of respectable Family, the Daughter of an Officer, deceased, who has served his Country an unprecedented period, with great credit, and whose nearest Relations are in the Army and Navy, is by misfortunes (not those of error or imprudency), reduced to utter want, which forces her to this painful mode of appeal on a benevolent Public, to enable her to undertake a favourable opening for the support of herself and Family. The smallest Donation will be gratefully acknowledged and received for the above, and every satisfactory information given, at Messrs. Marsh, Sibbald and Co., Bankers, Berners Street.
1820
Wednesday 19 January 1820
Morning Chronicle
St.Marylebone, Jan.18 1820 Subscriptions to Afford Temporary Relief to the Destitute Poor of the Parish, at their Own Houses, during this inclement Season Viz. - - -At Messrs Marsh, Sibbald and Co., Joseph Hume -£1.1 William King - £1.1 James Heath -£1.1 Francis Freeling £10.0.0 Marsh and Co. £21.0.0 Mr M.K. Knight £1.1 Miss Knight £1.1 John Wilson Esq., £5.0.0 A.Redwood Esq., £1.1.0 Mrs Dickson £5.0 Mrs Deval £2.0.0 Mr.Ross £2.2.0 Mrs.Tottingham £4.0.0 Mrs.Pope £2.0.0 Mrs. Nash £2.2.0 Mr. Giani £1.0.0 John Burchall £1.0.0 William Vale £2.0.0 - - -
Friday 21 January 1820
Morning Chronicle
Subscription to Afford Temporary Relief to the Destitute and Nightly Shelter to the Houseless, during the Present Inclement Season.
The Right Hon. Lord Mayor, President. At a meeting of the Committee of Management, the following Subscriptions were reported. - - - Subscriptions are received at - - -Marsh, Sibbald and Co., Bankers, Berner's Street - - - At Messrs Marsh, Sibbald and Co.'s J Purssord £1.1.0 James Tilson £1.0.0 Mrs Hodson £1.1.0 William Sanderson £1.0.0 D. Faithorn £1.1.0 G.M. £1.0.0 John Gale £1.1.0 Mrs Sarah Noyes £5.0.0 Mrs Ann Noyes £5.0.0 Stephen Bertin £2.2.0 Major Rennell £5.0.0 By a Gentleman £1.0.0 Thomas Hardwick Esq. £2.2.0 Peter Free Esq. £5.5.0 Mark Pinaro Esq £1.0.0 Mrs S. Hamilton £2.2.0 Mr S. Townsend £1.1.0 Alex. Nowell Esq. £10.10.0 John Manning Esq. £1.0.0 J.E.Conant Esq. £2.2.0
Wednesday 31 May 1820
New Times (London)
Queen Charlotte's Lying-In Hospital, Manor House, Lisson Green, instituted 1752.
President - His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex. A Sermon for the Benefit of the above Hospital will be preached in Quebec Chapel, Quebec Street, St.Mary-le-Bone on Sunday, June 11, 1820, by the Right Reverend Father in God the Lord Bishop of Chester. Subscription, Gits &c., are received by - - -Messrs Marsh, Sibbald, Stracey and Fauntleroy, Berners Street. - -
Sunday 28 October 1820
Sun (London)
Proposals for Erecting a Public Monument to the Memory of the late Venerable President of the Royal Academy, Benjamin West Esq.,
Historical Painter to the late King &c., &c.,
The Figure to be carved in White Marble as large as life by Charles Rossie R.A. Mr Rossi hopes the Subscription will enable him to place the Figure upon a Pedestal, embellished with appropriate Attributes of Painting, in some public situation where the whole may not only be viewed by the Students of the Royal Academy, - - -The following Bankers have kindly undertaken to receive subscriptions. - - - - Marsh, Stracey, Fauntleroy and Graham, 6 Berners Street, - - - - - Charles Murray, Honorary Secretary. N.B. Donations and Subscriptions to the Fund of "The Constitutional Association" will be received by - - - Messrs Marsh, Sibbald, Stracey, Fauntleroy and Co., No. 6 Berners Street. - - -
1821 Monday 8 January 1821
New Times (London)
At a Meeting of the Constitutional Association for Opposing the Progress of Disloyal and Seditious Principles held on Friday, the 22nd December 1820, at the King's Head Tavern, in the Poultry, London - Sir John Sewell Knt. LL.D. in the Chair. It was unanimously resolved to circulate among the Members and Friends of the Association the following Address - The prevalence of disloyal and seditious principles, to a great and alarming extent, among certain classes of our fellow subjects, is unhappily too notorious, at the present time, to admit of doubt or discussion.
Monday 29 January 1821
Morning Post.
Public Monument in Honour of his late Majesty King George the Third -
At a Meeting of the Committee and Sub-Committee held on Saturday January 27, 1821 -
The Marquis of Donegall in the Chair - It was resolved unanimously, That the following Prospectus be submitted to the Public, preparatory to the opening of a Subscription for the carrying the same into effect - Public Monument - To commemorate the glory of the longest Reign of any British Sovereign;the exalted virtues of his late Most Excellent Majesty, and the devoted affection of a most loyal People - - - - Sub-Committee - John Bird Esq., William Bullock Esq., James Christie Esq., H. Chambers Esq., H. Fauntleroy Esq., - - -
Monday 29 January 1821
Morning Post
Subscription for affording Nightly Shelter to the Houseless and Relief to the Destitute; President, the Right Hon. the Lord Mayor; Treasurer, Sir John William Lubbock, Bart., Subscriptions received since the last Advertisement - - P.S. Munn Esq., per Marsh's £1.1.0 Wm. M. - £1.1.0
Monday 29 January 1821
Morning Post
Shortly will be published, under the patronage of his Majesty to whom, by command, it is dedicated - A large Historical Engraving by Mr Sharp, of the Interview in 1647, after a Separation of nearly Two Years, between Charles the First and his Children, at the Inn at Maidenhead, in the presence of Oliver Cromwell.
Of this Interview, Cromwell afterwards declared to his Officers he had never witnessed a more affecting scene. The Plate being finished, the impressions will be ready for delivery to the Subscribers in May next. Subscriptions received at Messrs Marsh and Co., Bankers, Berners Street. Proofs - Six Guineas; Prints, Three Guineas. Half to be paid at the time of subscribing.
Thursday 28 June 1821
Morning Post
British Fire Office, Strand and Cornhill. Established in 1799 for Insurance of Houses, Buildings, Manufacturers, Goods and Merchandize, Ships, Vessels, and other Property on the most equitable terms,and on principles affording solid and permanent security to those insured. Directors &c., Joseph Warner Esq., Chairman. - - - William Marsh Esq., - - -
1822
Saturday 6 July 1822
New Times (London)
City of London Tavern, July 5 1822.
The Amount of Subscriptions to this day is £117,338.15.1.
The Amount of 455 Remittances in Money to Ireland - £78,335.0.0.
The Amount of Assistance sent and directed to distressed districts in Potatoes, Oatmeal, Biscuit, and Rice, with other disbursements about £37,250.0.0. The Society find that the distress of scarcity and want is increasing in the Western and Southern parts of Ireland, and are doing all in their power to afford some alleviation of this misery and suffering for the present,and the next months. - - - Amount of Subscriptions already advertised. - - - From Marsh and Co. - Miss Eliza Hodges £50.0.0 Lyndon Evelyn Esq., M.P.,£25.0.0 Miss Eliza Fauntleroy £1.1.0 Nathan E. Garrick Esq., £2.2.0 - - -
1823 Tuesday 11 March 1823
Morning Herald (London)
To the Right Hon. Lieut-General the Lord W.C. Bentinck G.C.B., &c., &c., - long letter -
My Lord, after the speeches delivered on Firday evening, and to so much purpose, at the dinner over which your Lordship presided, little remained to be said: yet had the opportunity offered for me to have addressed you, I should have found it impossible to have been altogether silent on such an occasion. Every British bosom must burn to raise the voice, while yet it is not permitted to raise the arm in defence of the liberties of Europe? for now, for the second time, will the liberties of Europe be won or lost upon the Peninsular. - - -for the real wound to be deprecated is the wound to liberty, whose side is attempted to be pierced by the unholy spear of France. I have the honour to be, my Lord, your Lordship's most faithful servant, Francis Weskett Myers, No. 60 Russell Square, 10th Marsh 1823 Books for subscriptions are opened at the banking houses of - - -Messrs Marsh, Stracey, Fauntleroy and Graham, Berners Street, - - -
Saturday 15 March 1823
Spanish Military Hospital Fund
Public Subscription for the Foundation and Support of Spanish Military Hospitals during the approaching War on the Peninsula, are received at the Banking Houses of Sir J.B. Morland Bt., Auriol & Co., Pall Mall; Messrs Marsh, Stracey, Fauntleroy and Graham, Berners Street, - - -
1824 Thursday 4 March 1824
Morning Post
This day, by all Booksellers, price 6d.
The Trial of Price versus Marsh, Stracey, Fauntleroy and Graham, at full length, highly important to the Commercial world and to Persons in general who keep cash accounts with Bankers, with the Opinions delivered by the Judges, on the application of the Defendant for a new trial, and copius remarks by the Editor.
Friday 9 July 1824
Morning Herald (London)
The Aged Widow of an Officer of Rank in the Army, being left with Two Orphans, totally unprovided for, by the sudden and premature death of her husband, who having enjoyed the comforts of affluence, are now compelled, from unforeseen misfortunes and sickness, to appeal to the humanity of the public; their distress is most severe. - Messrs Marsh, Stracey, Fauntleroy, and Graham, bankers, Berners St, and T.Maude Esq., George St, Westminster, have kindly consented to receive Subscriptions, and the smallest donation will be acknowledged with thankfulness. General Sir John Doyle K.C.B., 3/.3s.; William Wadd Esq., 2/.2s.; - - H.Fauntleroy Esq., 1/.1s. - - -
Monday 13 September 1824
Morning Herald (London)
Berners Street, Saturday night, Sept. 11 1824
The very unexpected situation in which we suddenly find our house placed by the extraordinary conduct of our partner, Mr.Fauntleroy had determined us for the present to suspend our payments, as most just and becoming to our friends in general. W.M. Marsh J.H. Stracey G.E. Graham
Tuesday 14 September 1824
London Courier and Evening Gazette
The circumstances connected with the suspension of payments by the banking-house of Marsh, Stracey, Fauntleroy and Graham, of Berners Street, were the subject of very general conversation yesterday in the city. From the nature of the information circulated on the subject it would be highly indecorous, without proper proofs, to give publicity to them. The necessity of suspending payments by the firm in question was publicly announced yesterday morning by the following notice - "Berners Street, Saturday night. - - -
Friday 17 September 1824
Star (London)
Mr Fauntleroy - - - -
The accused, it is well known, has been the active and managing partner in the above-mentioned banking house for a number of years.
Above ten years ago he was appointed joint trustee with J.D.Hume Esq. (of the Customs), and another Gentleman to the estate of a family of eight children (of which we forebear mentioning the name), deprived at an early age of their parents. The first forgery committed by the accused took place more than 10 years ago, when the names of the other trustees were forged to different instruments and ultimately to a power of attorney, by which 30,000/. stock was sold out by Mr.Fauntleroy.
To conceal this fraud, he was compelled some time afterwards to replace the stock when it had greatly risen. The discovery took place from one of the joint trustees accidentally investigated the accounts at the Bank of England, which had had been induced to do, in consequence of the approach of November, when the whole money held in trust, was, by an order of the Court of Chancery, to be paid into the hands of the Accomptant-General.
The trustee was panic struck at the discovery and communicated the fact to the other partners of the Bank, when those Gentlemen expressed their surprise and great alarm at the conduct of their partner. An application was made in the middle of last week, to Mr.Conant, at Marlborough Steet Office, and the whole of the facts then disclosed having been laid before him, he employed Mr.Plank, the chief officer, to apprehend Mr.Fauntleroy, having previously taken the deposition, on oath, of Mr.Hume, by which he felt authorised to issue a warrant for the alleged forgery. When Mr.Fauntleroy appeared before the Magistrate on Friday, he fully acquitted his partners of any participation or knowledge of his delinquency. - - - the prisoner was committed to the House of Correction by virtue of a warrant of which the following had been handed to us as a copy: - "Police Office, Marlborough Street, Sept 10 1824.
To the Governor of the House of Correction,
Cold Bath-fields, or his deputy.
Receive into your custody the body of Henry Fauntleroy, charged on oath of J.D.Hume and others, before me, Jno Edmd. Conant Esq., one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace, acting in and for the County of Middlesex, which having feloniously forged and uttered as true a certain instrument with intent to defraud the Governor and Company of the Bank of England and others of the sum of 10,000/. and him safely in your custody for re-examination before me. (signed) J.E. Conant.
On the prisoner arriving at the House of Correction, on Friday night last, orders were given that two persons should sit up with him night and day, to prevent his attempting his life, which order has been strictly complied with.
The prisoner's partners have not been admitted to him without special orders from the Magistrate, and then in the presence of an officer. No paper is allowed to go to or from him without its first being submitted to the committing Justice, Mr.Conant. The prisoner is above forty years of age, a little bald, and his hair rather grey. He is said to bear a resemblance to the late Napoleon Bonaparte. Yesterday we understand the Bank Directors made important discoveries.
Sunday 19 September 1824
Bell's Life in London and Sporting Chronicle
Saturday Nights Gazette -
Bankrupts - W.Marsh, J.H.Stracey & G.E.Graham, Berners Street, Bankers, (partners with Henry Fauntleroy)
Sunday 19 September 1824
Englishman.
Charge of Forgery against Henry Fauntleroy Esq., Banker.
An extraordinary degree of curiosity has been excited during the past week, in consequence of a report that prevailed that Mr.Fauntleroy, the acting partner in the banking house of Messrs Marsh, Stracey, Graham and Fauntleroy, in Berners Street, Oxford Street, had been apprehended uopn a charge of forgery to a considerable amount on the Bank of England. - - - An immediate enquiry took place as to the nature of "The extraordinary conduct" thus imputed to Mr.Fauntleroy. Many persons who had paid large sums into the banking-house late on the the Saturday, were thunderstruck by this notification, and the premises were completely besieged throughout the day. Some were lucky enough to obtain interviews with the partners, but little was obtained from them to diminish their apprehensions: one individual, an auctioneer in Marlborough Street, had paid in no less than two thousand pounds on the Saturday at four o'clock, the produce of a sale; - - -
On Friday Mr.Graham, one of the partners in the house, had a long interview with the prisoner in Cold Bath-fields prison, in the presence of the two persons who remain constantly in his room, day and night. - - -
Mr. F's stock speculations have, we learn, for many years been very large and too often unsuccessful; and to this as well as other causes, his rash conduct has been attributed. - - - The discovery of the forgeries is thus accounted for: - Mr.Hume had proposed to have the children , for whom he, in conjunction with Mr.Fauntleroy, was trustee, made wards in Chancery. This Mr Fauntleroy strenuously opposed, on the ground of the expense, but, on a meeting of the Solicitors, it was proved that the expense would not exceed 200/., and Mr.Fauntleroy was reluctantly obliged to give his consent.
The manner in which Mr.Fauntleroy conducted himself in this discussion excited Mr.Hume's suspicions, and in consequence he applied to ascertain the state of the stock, and by this means the whole matter was exposed. It has been justly observed, that the discovery of the forgeries ought not to have affected the credit of the banking-house; because the firm were not accountable for the felonious act of their partner.
It is naturally surmised, therefore, that there were other cogent reasons for a stoppage. Considerable advances, we have heard, have been made by the house to promote the extensive building speculations going on in the neighbourhood of the Regents Park. Mr. Fauntleroy has a splendid establishment at Hampstead, where his entertainments were of the most hospitable description. On Friday morning an Advertisment was issued, calling a meeting of the creditors of Mr.Fauntleroy at the Boar and Castle, Oxford St, on the Saturday.
Monday 20 September 1824
Morning Post
Mr Henry Fauntleroy - Full Particulars It was known that Mr.Fauntleroy was the most generally acting partner of the Banking House, and usually, when in town, normally resided there. Plank, on receiving the warrant for his apprehension, went about seven o'clock the same evening, to the house in Berners Street and inquired for Mr.Fauntleroy, but was answered that that gentleman dined from home,and it was uncertain what time he should return. Plank determined to await that time, walked about the street near the house with another officer the whole of the night and until seven o'clock in the morning. Mr.Fauntleroy not having arrived home by that time Plank took it for granted that he had taken his rest somewhere else for the night, and the officer therefore returned to his own house, leaving, however, an officer still on the watch in Berners Street. About ten o'clock, his usual hour for business, Mr.Fauntleroy was seen to enter the Banking house and information was despatched to Plank to that effect. Plank instantly proceeded, accompanied by Mr.Goodchild to Berners Street - - -
When Plank however, entered the bank immediately after Mr.Goodchld he saw this gentleman in a small office, at the end of the counting-house speaking to a gentleman seated at a desk, whom he knew to be Mr.Fauntleroy.
The officer did not therefore wait to present his check, but pushing on instantly by the clerks, saying that he wanted to speak one word to Mr.Fauntleroy he entered the place, where the latter and Mr.Goodchild were in conversation, and closing the door, made known his name and business at once, at the same time producing his warrant. Mr.Fauntleroy became dreadfully agitated, nd exclaimed "Good God, cannot this business be settled?" Plank begged of him to make no noise, but to walk out quietly for a few minutes, and they would there talk about a settlement. Mr.Fauntleroy then signed a few blank checks, with a very unsteady hand, and giving them to one of the clerks, told him he should go our for a few minutes; and putting on his hat, walked out without observation, by the side of the officer, who immediately conducted him to the private house of Mr.Conant. Mr.Fauntleroy being now fully aware of the dreadful situation in which he was placed, expressed a desire that the principal clerk at the banking house should be sent for, that he might give him some direction about the business of the day, which would otherwise be thrown into confusion, as it was not likely that any of the other parnters woud call in, it being his day of attendance. - - -
When arrived at the Bank, Mr Graham had by accident just entered,and on learning the situation of his unhappy partner, he was thunderstruck for the moment, and scarely able to articulate. Mr Graham had not well recovered from his shock when Mr.Marsh, a very elderly gentleman, another partner, came in, and the unfortunate affair being disclosed to him, that gentleman dropped into a chair, and became insensible from the shock. These two gentlemen now threw open every place, and gave very facility to the search of the officer, declaring that they had no secrecy, and that the whole of their affairs and transactions should be open to a thorough investigation. Plank made the necessary search, but found no papers of any consequence to the case under investigation. Mr Graham then accompanied Mr.Freshfield and Plank to Mr.Conant's house.
Monday 24 September 1824
Morning Chronicle Mr Fauntleroy and Messrs Marsh and Co.
We have copied from the Observer of yeserday, the account of the Examination of Mr.Fauntleroy, before Mr.Conant, at Marlborough Street Office, on Saturday; and of a Meeting of Creditors of Messrs Marsh, Stracey, Graham and Fauntleroy, held at the Boar and Castle, Oxford St, on the same day. It was stated, at the Meeting, by the Chairman, Mr.Frost, that, at the present moment, Marsh and Co. had cash in the house sufficient to pay all who had claims upon them, and more.
But this statement must be taken, we suppose, with the limitation - that, at present, the whole extent of the operations of Mr.Fauntleroy are not known.. As far as regards the forgeries, on the Bank of England, yet before the public, the creditors of the firm will not, we believe, be affected, as the partnership creditors have a priority of claim on the partnership funds to the creditors of the individual partners, which the Bank of England are. But, till it be ascertained that the House itself is not affected by Mr.Fauntleroy's operations, it is premature to pronounce, merely from appearances, what will fall ot the share of the creditors. Full Particulars of the Examination of Mr H. Fauntleroy on Saturday Evening. Marlborough Street. During the whole of this day, this
office was thronged with creditors of the banking-house of Messrs Marsh, Stracey, Graham, and Fauntleroy, Berners Street, who were anxious to be present at the expected examination of Mr.Fauntleroy, whose case during the last week has so much occupied the public attention. Considerable doubts being entertained whether the examination would be public or not, a correspondent anxiety was, throughout the day, manifested by the creditors, who naturally sought information respecting the circumstances which had led to the suspension of the payments of the firm.
It was understood that at three o'clock Mr.Fauntleroy would be brought up, and when that hour arrived, Mr.Conant took his seat on the bench with Sir George Farrant, Mr.Dyer, and Mr.Roe, the other Magistrates. At this time the office was frilled by persons evidently waiting for the business of the Bank, and the intimation of some of the offices in waiting, that all who had no particular business with the Magistrates may depart, was heedlessly heard, and, of course, unattended to.
The hint thus being disregarded, the officers in the gentlest way applied personally to those who remained in the office to depart. Again a difficulty arose; those within seemd disposed to remain for the business they had been for hours awaiting, and the officers evinced a creditable forbearance in not precipitatingt matters to extremities. Plant at length communicated with Mr.Conant, and then came the order to clear the office, but so given, and so enforced, that it was quite clear, to those who see their was merely for the purpose of preventing a confused and probably interrupting crowd, and not with any view of preventing either that attendance of real creditors interested in the issue,or of the reporters for the public press, whose admission necessarily involved the consequence - whether or no the creditors of the Bank and the public at large should have an authentic information upon a subject to which their attention had been so importantly called.
During the progress of the clearing, which was in this gentle manner carried into effect, rather than enforced, a gentlman, who stated (without giving his name) that he was professionally engaged to watch the proceedings in behalf of several heavy creditors, claimed the privilege of being presentto watch, as he said, "the proceedings in the cause." Another individual, a creditor, made a similar application, but was informed by Mr.Roe, that he, as well as other creditors, would have other opportunities of being present to hear the proceedings, as it was impossible that any final committal would take place this day. The office was a length cleared, and, after some waiting in the hall, it was announced that the Reporters for the public press would be admitted when the examination resumed.
At a quarter before four o'clock they were called in, and the opportunity was taken by the bystanding creditors, to whom we have already alluded, to press forward at the same moment - the consequence was, that the public office was crowded in an instant. Mr.Conant, on observing the incursion, remarked, that it could not be altogether composed of those who attended for the public press. However, after some ceremony by Mr.Fitzpatrick, the Chief Clerk, of taking down names, and keeping the bar clear, the crowd, with that desire uniformly seen of accommodating itself to the space in which it must rest, had so formed, that the officers could do their duty, maintain order, and conclude the arrangements for introducing the prisoner, without any further intervention of precautionary form (for the whole was nothing else), all preliminary matters ceased, and Mr.Conant desired that Mr.Fauntleroy should be brought in.
When order was obtained, Mr.Conant addressed the Reporters, and said that he thought it proper to inform them, that possibly ther might some circumstances transpire on the present occasion, which, if prematurely published, would have a tendency to impede public justice. If such occurred, and they were advised of it, he was persuaded that the public press would feel the propriety of abstaining from giving premature publicity to such matters. He had no objection whatever to the attendance of the Reporters for the public press upon this understanding, the obvious utility of which they must themselves perceive.
At a few minutes before four o'clock, Mr.Fauntleroy, was placed in the front of the bar, escorted by Plank and Schofield the officers. The unfortunate prisoner, who appears not to be more than 40 or 43 years of age, is a man of the middle size, fair complexion, grey eyes, cropped hair falling on his foreheard, nearly grey, a good profile, or what would be called a mild Roman contour of visage, and fresh healthy complexion. He was dressed in a blue coat and trousers and half-boots, with a light coloured waistcoat. He leaned upon his left arm at the bar, holding his hat down in his right hand. There was a decent and gentlemanly composure in his manner; he never raised his hat to endeavour to hide his face from the crowd of strangers who gazed upon him, but kept his eyes fixed upon the ground, not indifferent to the passing business, for he heaved a sigh, and remained in front of the bar, without betraying any other symptons of attention to the judicial proceedings which were pending.
As soon as this unfortunate Gentleman was placed in front of the bar, Mr.Conant requested him to advance to the table, which he did, and the Magistrate addressed him as follows: "I am much concerned, Mr.Fauntleroy, to hear that a person of the name of Hanson has introduced himself into your prison room, and spoke to you in an unpleasant, if not in an insulting tone of language. I am sorry that such an occurrence should have taken place, and I shall in future take care, and prevent a repetition of it." Mr.Fauntleroy replied in a low tone of voice: "He said nothing insulting, Sir, more than obtruding himself into my chamber without my consent."
The prisoner having resumed his situation at the bar, the depositions already given against him (four several powers of attorney) at the private examinations, were read by Mr.Fitzpatrick, the chief clerk, and the parties subscribing them were duly bound over to prosecute. The first depsition was that of Mr.Price, a clerk in the late banking-house, which was read as follows:-
"it sheweth that the deponent hath examined a power of attorney of the date of the 7th December 1820, for the transfer of 10,000/. Imperial Three per Cent Annuities, which were vested in the Co-trusteeship of Henry Fauntleroy, of Berners Street, banker; James Dekin Hume, for the Custom-house; and John Goodchild, surgeon, of Westerham, Surrey, in trust for the widow and heir of the late Francis William Bellis, of Hockstead Cottage, Surrey; and further that the deponent hath read the names of the subscribing witnesses, James Tyson and William Price, a clerk (or clerks) in the house of Messrs Marsh, Stracey, Grahm, Fauntleroy and Co.; and that he believes the signature William Price to be in his own proper hand-writing; but that respecting the annexed words "in the presence of H.Fauntleroy and J.D. Hume," the same are, as he verily believes, in the hand-writing of the prisoner, Henry Fauntleroy; and deponent hath no knowledge of his ever having witnessed a transfer of the kind in the presence of the said J.D.Hume or any other recollection of the said Henry Fauntleroy."
Mr Price signed his depostion, and was bound over to prosecute, in the usual form. The second was that of the Rev.Charles Hardinge, Vicar of Sundridge, which was made before Mr.Conant on the 18th September, & sheweth "that the deponent hath examined a power of attorney, bearing date the 7th December, 1820, for the transfer of 10,000/. Imperial Three per Cent., and hath particularly examined the attestation, therein signed "Charles Hardinge, Vicar of Sundrigde," annexed to that which purported to be the signature of John Goodchild, surgeon of that place; but deponent declareth that the signature is not is (deponent's) proper hand writing; nor that he any personal acquaintance with the said John Goodchild, except knowing him to be a surgeon of the neighbourhood; nor hath he ever witnessed any such transfer, or hath he had before or since a servant named John Mason, who is represented to have attested the same transfer with him."
Mr.Freshfield: As Mr.Hardinge is here, perhaps it would be as well to take another deposition of his, which has just been prepared. - The Magistrates giving assent to the proposition, another deposition was read, which "Sheweth that a transfer, dated 7th Sept. (or Dec) 1820, for passing 17,000/. Navy 5 per cent. annuities; to which, in the same terms as the last, the Rev. Mr. Hardinge was represented as being, with his supposed servant, John Mason, an attesting witness to the signature of John Goodchild, was not in his (deponent's) proper hand-writing, nor had he ever attested such an instrument."
This deposition was subscribed, and Mr.Hardinge bound over to give evidence. The next deposition was that of Sir Richard Hardinge, Bart. of Sundridge, in the County of Kent, which "sheweth, that he (the said Baronet) hath examined a power of attorney, bearing date the 20th October, 1820, for the transfer of 46,000/. reduced 3 per cent Annuities, from the names of Messrs Fauntleroy, Hume and Goodchild, in trust, and hath examined the signature "Richard Hardinge, Bart." and that of Mary his wife, now deceased, as attesting witnesses to the signature "John Goodchild," both of which signatures are not in his or her proper hand-writing.
He further deposeth that he knows the said John Goodchild to be surgeon in the neighbourhood, but it not in habits of intimacy with him, and never witnessed the present or any other signature of his, to any transfer or power of attorney."
Sir Richard Hardinge signed his deposition and was bound over as an evidence for the prosecution.
In a conversation with Mr.Conant, Sir Richard Hardinge remarked, that his lady's name was on the face of it a clear fabrication; but that the pretended hand-writing of his so much resembled his proper hand-writing, that if shewn to him in the ordinary course of business, he should have admitted it. -
Mr.Conant: But here you speak positively to its not being your hand-writing to this instrument? Sir Richard Hardinge: Certainly I do; because never having signed any transfer of Mr.Goodchild's, it follows, as a consequence, I could have nothing to do with this. I never, indeed, was in a room with him but once, about seven years ago, when he was employed to extract a tooth. The signature is certainly not mine. Another power of attorney was then shewn to the Honourable Baronet, bearing the date of 30th of October 1820, for the transfer of 5,300/. four per cent annuities, and he deposed, that his signature to this transfer, as an attesting witness for the signature of John Goodchild, was also a forgery.
Mr Freshfield said, that on a former occasion, evidence had been taken which was now reduced to the form of depositions, and it would be necessary to have them, in the form in which they were now put, regularly sworn to. The first was that of Mr.J.D.Hume, the co-trustee with the prisoner, which, in the usual terms of professional technicality, repudiated his signature to the transfers already read in evidence, and further stated, that, in a conversation which he had a few weeks ago with the prisoner, the latter informed him, that the whole of the stock, of which he (Mr.Hume) was in trustreeship with him, for the widow and children of the late Mr.Bellis, remained as it originally stood in the Bank in their conjoint names. This conversation arose in consequence of some proceedings in the Court of Chancery, which rendered it necessary that an account should be taken for the Receiver-General. Mr.John Goodchild was then called and sworn, and a deposition corresponding in all respects with that sworn to by Mr.Hume was put into his hand and read; he returned it and said it was perfectly correct. Mr.Freshfield, the Solicitor for the Bank, then stated, that if the friends of Mr.Fauntleroy were desirous, he would be prepared, on the earliest possible day, to proceed with the charges against him. Mr.Conant: I rather apprehend Mr.Fauntleroy has no wish to press the business forward, but is ready to wait the convenience of his prosecutors. Mr.Harmer, who attended as Solicitor for Mr.Fauntleroy remarked, that no good could be obtained by expediting the business now. It would be impossible for his client to take his trial during the present Sessions, and therefore the Solicitor of the Bank might suit his own convenience. Mr.Conant, addressing the prisoner: I believe, Mr.Fauntleroy, you are desirous of remaining where you are (alluding to the prison in which he is confined). Mr.Fauntleroy: If you please, Sir. The witnesses, whose depositions had been taken, were then bound over in a recognizance of 40/. each, to give evidence against the prisoner at the ensuing Old Bailey Sessions. They were as follows:- Mr Willam Price, the Reverend Charles Hardinge, Sir Richard Hardinge, Mr John Tyson, who gave evidence similar to Mr.Price on a former day; Mr.Goodchild, Mr.Hume, and Mr.Graham, a partner in the house of Marsh and Co., who proved, at the former examination, that he had received the power of Attorney for the transfer of 10,000/. Imperial 3 per cents., from the hands of the prisoner, in the form in which it was now produced. The future examination was then postponed for a week, with an intimation that additional delay might take place, if necessary. Mr.Fauntleroy, who had scarcely looked up during the examination, was then removed from the bar, and reconducted to prison, in the manner in which he had been brought in the morning. He seemed extremely anxious to avoid public observation.
Meeting of the Creditors of Messrs Marsh and Co. Saturday, in pursuance of an advertisement, anonymously inserted in some of the public prints, convening a meeting of the creditors on the Banking Firm of Messrs Marsh, Stracey, Fauntleroy, and Co. at the Boar and Castle, Oxford Street, about fifty persons assembled in a room in that tavern at the appointed hour (one o'clock).
As they assembled, they accosted each other, to know either the nature of the meeting, or the parties who called it, but for some time no satisfactory information could be obtained; at length Mr.Frost rose and said, that it was time some gentlemen should state why tis meeting had been called, or what was the intended object. He was at a lose to know what was the object of their being thus convened - at all events, now that there were met, it was obvious that, in their unfortunate situation as creditors of the Bank, they ought to conduct themselves with the utmost temper and patience; nothing beneficial could be done without the exercise of these virtues, and particularly when the motion to exclude the Reporters from the room, which was almost unanimously negatived. Upon a motion of a Creditor, that the list of persons who called the Meeting be produced, a paper containing the following names was put into the hands of the Chairman: - "Signed, Honeywell, for Bushell & Co.; Charters, Holland and Co.; Cork and Spain; John Messer; G.Smith; Isaac Smith jun; John Marks and Co.; Mr. William Mills; Thomas Barnes; William Sanderson; John Hill."
The Chairman was asked, what was the object of the meeting? Mr.Charters, a creditor, said he had signed the paper calling the meeting together; and the object was to adopt means to obtain possession of their property. The Chairman said that if no person belonging to the firm of Marsh, Stracey, and Co., appeared to give the creditors information, he thought the meeting was premature,as the creditors would be quite in the dark asto the true state of their affairs. He thought it would not be improper, as there was a great number of the creditors present, to say, that, at the present moment, Marsh and Co. had cash in the house sufficien: to pay all who had claims upon them, and more (applause) He hoped that no rash measures of the creditors would throw the estate into the hands of improper persons, and the property be swallowed up in law proceedings.
A Gentleman observed, that he was a creditor to a considerable amount, and he had always experienced the most honorable treatment at the hands of the bankers. He did not mean to say that this meeting was premature; but he thought it was a favourable trait in the character of Messrs Marsh and Co., that on the Saturday before they stopped payment, they should have paid out to the public not less than 350,000/. - (Hear, hear). Mr.Noel, an attorney, said he was a creditor for 500/. and had attended the meeting from mere accident, having seen a paper at the door of the tavern, announcing the meeting of creditors as he passed by. He thought that as no person was present from the bank to give them information, the meeting was premature. He had great confidence in the honor and integrity of the partners, Messrs Marsh, Stracey, and Graham, and was surprised that the meeting had not been generally made known to the body of creditors. (Some voice exclaimed , "There is not a tenth of the creditors present.")
Mr Charters said, "Gentlemen, I am one who signed the advertisement for calling the meeting, and our sole object is to get our money as soon as possible. (Cries - "you said so before.") We wish to know the cause for stopping payment; and I ask, gentlemen, why the bank should have stopped payment when they possessed funds sufficient to pay all the claims upon the house, as the worthy Chairman had stated. - (Hear.) I hope, as we are now met together, that the affairs will be put into honest hands; and I cannot but express my surprise, that Messrs Marsh, Stracey, and Graham, who are not under charge of illegal conduct, should not have thought proper to have appeared in person, or by their agent. Gentlemen, I hope we shall avoid the fate that befell the creditors in the case of Howard and Gibbs, and I think it was nothing more than what we might fairly have expected that Messrs Marsh and Co. should have some reason for their having suspended payments." He hoped that, before the meeting separated, some persons would be appointed to watch over the interests of the creditors.
Mr.Thelwell said he did not approve of the present meeting. It has been called by persons scarcely known, and in such a partial manner, that excited strong suspicion that some job was contemplated.(Cries of "hear, hear," and much noise from the coterie.) Mr.Honeywell - Are you a creditor? Mr.Thelwell - Yes, I am, Sir, and have banked in the house for 16 years. I object to this meeting for various reasons, and I believe it is likely to lead to no good, except to throw work into the hands of the lawers. (Here the speaker cast his eye, and looked expressively towards a knot of attornies present, and his observation excited a noise and uproar.) Gentlemen, I beg to state that I oppose the last speaker's observations, and will answer them if I am not prevent by clamour.
He asked why they stopped payment? I reply, that the reason has been published in the newspapers by the other partners, viz. that it was owing to the delinquincy of Mr.Fauntleroy, who had been committed for forgeries of the most extensive description. I give the other partners credit for having acted in a way most honorable to themselves, and likely to prove most advantageous to their creditors; and am of opinion that this meeting is not only premature, but may be very injurious to the interest of the creditors generally.
He concluded by moving, that if any persons present have authority to give authentic information to the meeting concerning the affairs of the bank, he will be kind enough to come forward and state the same, and if no such person be in attendance, that the meeting be dissolved.(Loud opposition). A person present opposed the latter part of the motion, "That the meeting be dissolved," and it was expunged. -
The motion was seconded. Mr.Riley, a linen-draper, of Oxford Street, said he was a creditor, and should not oppose the motion; but he thought there was no person present who could give more information than himself (laughter) He had been told, from authority, which no one could pretend to dispute, that 20s. in the pound would be paid to all the creditors. (Hear, hear; and "No, no.") This depended much, he admitted, upon the allowance of the Bank of England's claim on Marsh and Co.'s funds. He firmly believed that bank was in solvent circumstances. Mr.Wool, of the firm of Bushnell and Co. said that he was convinced that though the bank had 900,000/. in cash in the house, yet it was not in solvent circumstances. Mr.Thelwell's motion was put and carried. Mr.Riley said, that a committee ought to be appointed to watch over the interests of the creditors. Mr.Thelwell wished the meeting to be dissolved, as tending more to the injury of the creditors than serviceable. (A person named Honeywell, here used some coarse observations towards Mr.Thelwell.) Mr.Thelwell exclaimed "If any person uses ungentlemanly language towards me here, he must answer to it elsewhere." Mr.Allen (an Attorney and Deputy Clerk of the Peace for Westminster) said that though they had no information from the partners of the bank laid before them, yet they had these facts - that the bank had stopped payment, and a commission of bankruptcy had been issued. He was of opinion the meeting, before the separated, ought to consider the propriety of appointing proper persons as a committee to watch over their interests, by carefully looking into the proceedings during the working of the commission (applause): for in his opinion it depended mainly on the parties into whose hands the proceedings fell, whether the creditors obtained their property, or were deprived of it.
Sunday 19 December 1824
Marsh, Stracy, Fauntleroy and Graham -
Court of the Commissioners of Bankrupts. Basinghall Street -
Yesterday.
This being the day appointed for the bankrupts to pass their examination, at eleven o'clock three of the Commissioners of the seventh list, John Beauclerc Esq., Jefferies Spranger Esq., and John Dyneley Esq attended; Mr.Bolland, one of the assignees, was also in attendance. Mr.Common Sergeant and Mr.Merryweather also attended on behalf of several persons interested in the estate. Mr.Montague attended for the assignees and Mr.F.Pollock for the bankrupts.
Mr.Knight, Solicitor, stated that he appeared there on behalf of a large body of creditors whose claims were for a very large amount, not less than sixty thousand pounds; under these circumstances he wished to ask Mr.Bolland, the assignee, whether a balance sheet would be produced on this occasion?
Mr.Bolland - From the nature and extend of of the accounts it could not be got ready.
Mr.Knight - Then the bankrupts cannot pass their examination today.
Mr.Bolland - Most certainly not. It is not intended. It was now intimated that the Bankrupts were in attendance, and all the Commissioners requested why might be made for them to come up to the table. Thiswas found impracticable, and they were obliged to stand on the right of the Commissioners.
One of the Commissioners handed the book to them; they were sworn, and informed it was their duty to make a full disclosure of all the estates and effects, and if they concealed property to the amount of 2d, it was transportable offence.
Mr.Knight then addressed the Commissioners, and said he wished to put some questions to Mr.Stracey, respecting property of which the assignees, he thought, had no knowledge, and of which Mr.Stracey could give some information. Mr.Montague said it would be inexpedient to ask any questions of the bankrupts until the balance sheet was produced - that was the usual practice. Mr.Knight contended that, although the balance-sheet might not be ready, still when the bankrupts surrendered, it was their duty to give every information; and he, on behalf of the creditors whom he there represented, had a right now to make any inquiries he might judge proper. Mr.Montague would not dispute the right, he had no inclination to resist the enquiry, but there wa a question as to the time of exercising that right. He could state that there was one hundred thousand pounds in hand, and early in January he expected a dividend would be made. Mr.Knight now made application that Mr.Stracey may be examined, in order that he may give information of property that I believe the assignees know nothing of, and I think, possessing the information I do, I ought to judge of the expediency, as it regards time (This remark was loudly applauded).
Mr.Knight - I will state the object of my inquiry. On the Saturday that the house stopped payment, bills were given to a gentleman for him to get them discounted. Some of these bills have been since paid, not on account of the estate, but to a private individual. The amount of the bills so given as £10,000/. and I wish to ask Mr.Stracey for what purpose the bills were given? and how it was that the individual alluded to received the amount of one bill that became due a weeks after they were given?
Mr.Montague had just been informed by Mr.Stracey's Solicitor, that he was anxious to be examined. There was a vast difference between concealment of property and a preference being given. The Commissioners intimated that they had not power to exclude any Creditors from making what inquiries they pleased. It was for the benefit of the estate.
Mr.Montague then stated that the persons alluded to had been examined before the Commissioners and his deposition was on the proceedings, and a list of the property in question - The person was Mr.Burton, a broker of the greatest respectability. A claim had been made by Messrs Laflitte's the bankers of Paris, for the sum of five thousand and upwards; when that claim was made, it was upon a bill drawn by Mr.Burton, and for that reason requested that it might stand over. It was then not so clear as now.
Application had since been made to Mr.Burton to give up the bills, who, in reply say, "No, I shall not part with any property until you dispose of the question of the 5,000/." It was eventually agreed that Mr.Knight, on behalf of the creditors, whom he appeared for, should have access to the deposition of Mr.Burton, and confer with Mr.Gordon, the solicitor to the Commissioners, as to the propriety of having another meeting on the subject, and that a copy of the accounts of the estate and effects should be furnished to Mr.Knight, and also to Mr.Mayhew, who appeared for another body of creditors, one copy only to be paid for out of the estate of the bankrupts. Nothing of interest beyond the reading of the balance sheet transpired.
Upon this sheet it appeared that the debts of the firm, exclusive of any claims by the Bank of England, amount to £551,149l. 16s. 7d., and the available assets to £398.833l. 13s. 4d. Mr.Pollack stated that in the balance sheet the alleged claim of the Bank was not noticed.
Sunday 31 October 1824
Common Sense
Mr.Fauntleroy's Statement - - -
With this object it is necessary that I should first state, shortly, the circumstances under which I have been placed during my connexion with Marsh and Co.
My father established the banking-house in 1792, in conjunction with Marsh, and other gentlemen. Some of the partners retired in 1794, about which time a lost of £20,000/. was sustained. Here commenced the difficulties of the house.
In 1796 Mr.Stracey and another gentleman came into the firm, with little or no augmentation of capital. In 1800 I became a clerk in the house, and continued so six years, and although, during that time I received no salary, the firm were so well satisfied with my attention and zeal for the interest and welfare of the establishment that I was handsomely rewarded by them. In 1807 my father died: I then succeeded him; at this time I was only twenty-two years of age, and the whole weight of the an extensive but needy Banking establishment at once devolved upon me, and I found the concern deeply involved in advances to builders and others which had rendered a system of discounting necessary, and which we were obliged to continue in consequence of the scarcity of money at that time, and the necessity of making further advances to those persons to secure the sums in which they stood indebted. In this perplexed state the house continued until 1810, when its embarrassments were greatly increased, owing to the bankruptcies of Brickwood and others, which brought upon it a sudden demand for no less a sum than 170,000/. the greater part being for the amount of bills which our house had accepted and discounted for these parties, since become bankrupts. About 1814, 1815 and 1816, from the speculations with builders and brickmakers, &c., in which the house was engaged, it was called upon to provide funds for near £100,000/. to avert the losses which would otherwise have visited it from those speculations.
In 1819, the most responsible of our partners died, and we were called upon to pay over the amount of his capital, although the substantial resources of the house were wholly inadequate to meet so large a payment. During these numerous and trying difficulties the house was nearly without resources and the whole business of management falling upon me, I was driven to a state of distraction, in which I could meet with no relief from my partners, and almost broken-hearted, I sought resources where I could, and so long as they were provided, and the credit of the house supported, no inquiries were made, either as to the manner in which they were procured or as to the sources from whence they were derived.
In the midst of these calamities, not unknown to Mr.Stracey he quitted England and continued in France, on his own private business, for two years, leaving me to struggle as well as I could with difficulties almost unsurmountable. Having thus exposed all the necessities of the house, I declare that all the monies temporarily raised by me, were applied, not in one instance for my own separate purposes, or expenses, but in every case they were immediately placed to the credit of the house in Berners Street, and applied to the payment of the pressing demands upon it. - - continues - - -
Friday 3 December 1824
Stamford Mercury
Execution of Fauntleroy
On Tuesday morning, at the usual hour, Henry Fauntleroy Esq., late partner in the house of Marsh, Stracey, Fauntleroy, and Graham, underwent the dreadful sentence of the law.
It has not happened for many years that an execution has created an interest so universally intense. At the execution of Governor Wall, and of Thistlewood and his associates, the crowd perhaps was nearly equal, but although the atrocity and the peculiar character of the offences for which they died, were such as to excite the mingled sensations of curiosity, abhorrence, and commiseration, the unprecedented spectacle of a London banker condemned to die for forgery - that offence to which the property of a class of individuals at once so respectable and important in society, is peculiarly exposed - excited a degree of interest in the public mind beyond example.
The multitude surpassed in extent and in density any crowd remembered within a space so limited. Although the justice and the necessity of this melancholy expiation were generally recognised, the sympathetic commiseration of the vast concourse assembled to witness the last moments of the culprit, was manifestly prevading every bosom, and may be truly said to have been universal. At two o'clock in the morning the workmen issuing from the court-yard that separates Newgate from the Sessions House, gave "dreadful note of preparation."
The timbers that had been prepared were now brought forth, and were distributed at the respective places at which it had been decided to erect extra barriers to divide the pressure of the crowd. - - - At half-past four the gates of the court between the prison and the Old Bailey being suddenly thrown open, the fatal platform came forth, drawn by three horses, and was slowly dragged to its destination opposite the Debtors' Door.
The heavy roll of this ponderous body, moving as it does on wheels of less than two feet diameter, is such as to have been felt in every part of Newgate, when slowly passing that massive building. - - - At six o'clock Mr. Baker, the particular friend of of the criminal arrived, and obtained an entrance through the private door of Mr.Wontner's house. Immediately proceeding to the room of Mr.Fauntleroy, he found the unhappy culprit in a state of resignation and comparative tranquility that was highly satisfactory as evincing the salutary effects of that religious consolation which had been so anxiouly and so kindly administered by the united efforts of his spiritual comforters, the Rev.Mr.Cotton, the Rev.Mr.Springett, and Mr.Baker. Mr.Fauntleroy received his excellent friend and consoler with a degree of fortitude which manifested perfect resignation to his fate. - - -
He had been shaved at five o'clock by Mr.Gostling, hair-dresser of Fleet Lane, and having washed and dressed, felt greatly refreshed. - - - But as if conscious of the inadequacy of words to the expression of his real feelings he endeavoured to commit to paper that which verbal language could not express. During the night, or very early in the morning he contrived to write a letter which was found addressed to those gentlemen. In this he poured out his thanks with a powerful expression of feeling. A few minutes before seven, the Rev.Mr.Cotton, the Ordinary, entering Newgate, proceeded to the condemned room in which prisoners spend the last hour previous to execution, and there awaited the arrival of Mr.Fauntleroy, who shortly after approached, supported by his religious friends. - - -
On entering the condemned cell Mr.Fauntleroy advanced toward the Rev.Ordinary with a solemn air, but with an alacrity strongly expressive of a grateful wish to recognise the kind attentions of the Rev.Gentleman. Preparations were then made for administering the sacrament; but previously to entering on that last solemn duty, Mr.Fauntleroy requested that his favourite hymn might be sung. - - - The short interval which elapsed previous to the arrival of the Sheriffs he spent chiefly in silent meditation. During this time he took off his silver-mounted spectacles and requested Mr.Baker to accept them as a dying token of his sincere and grateful regard, accompanying the gift with the following emphatic expression: "Remember Sir, these are what last assisted me to read the precious truths of the Gospel." - - --
At this moment Mr.Wontner, the Govermor, and Mr.Barrett, Clerk of the Papers, accompanied by some other gentlemen, entered the room. the officers then moved towards Mr.Fauntleroy with the cords for pinioning the arms and wrists of the unhappy criminal, which duty they performed in a manner as little offensive as possible, the prisoner moving his hands with a view to facilitate their object, and throwing back the cuffs of his coat. He was at this time engaged in ejaculatory prayer, frequently exclaiming "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." - which he repeated several times before he arrived at the extremity of the prison. - - -
Soon after the clock had struck eight, everything was prepared; the Sheriffs then intimated that the time had arrived when they must proceed to the fatal platform and leading the way they were followed by the Rev.Ordinary of the prision, next followed the criminal, who raised his eyes, and his hands as far as he could, towards heaven, and walked forwards with a firm unshaken step: as he passed the several turnkeys, he appeared to give them a look of recognition. Having arrived mid way between the press-yard and the debtors' door, the bell of death sounded it first solemn knell, announcing to the crowd, which now filled the whole space between Ludgate Hill and the pens at Smithfield, the advance of the mournful procession. - - -
By the time the procession had arrived at the outer door, when the Rev.Mr.Cotton proceeded up the steps to the platform, and was instantly followed by Mr.Fauntleroy, who still supported by his friends, ascended the fatal scaffold with a firm step, apparently not regarding the crowd and perturbing clamour with which he was surrounded. He was dressed in a new suit of black - coat, waistcoat, and trousers - under which he wore silk stockings of the same colour and a pair of light pumps. The criminal being placed in the cross beam, the executioner proceeded to divest his neck of his white cravat, and putting on the cap, he immediatly drew it over his face. The noose of the halter was then put over his neck and properly adjusted.
These awful preliminaries did not last more than three minutes, during which time Mr.Fauntleroy stood unmoved. The executioner than taking his station within reach of the fatal bolt, the Rev.Ordinary read as follows: - "Man that is born of woman hath but a short time to live, and is full of misery," &c. - -Suffer us not at our last hour from any pains of death to fall from thee." On uttering the last word the bolt being suddenly withdrawn Henry Fauntleroy was launched into eternity! Thus fell this unhappy man beneath the avending arm of the law - in a few minutes motion and life became extinct. The body having hung the usual time, was cut down and taken into the prison, where it was stripped and placed in a coffin as usual; after which it was delivered to the friends of the wretched deceased. The parting of Mr.Fauntleroy and his wife (from whom he had been separated for some years) and also between him and a young woman with whom he had cohabited, and between him and a son by his wife (a fine youth of 16 years of age) took place a day or two before the execution, and presented scenes of the most high-wrought anguish. It is now stated, upon what is considered no less authority than that of Mr.Fauntleroy's own legal adviser, that his forgeries were so extensive as to require 16,000/. to be paid yearly in dividends alone, in order to prevent detection.
File 0294 -
1824 after the "Bank"? or Christie's list from early 1824
Pictures Mr.M. minds to keep. - Continued.
(May have been in Stratheden House earlier in the year until sold)
No. on Mr.W's book Pictures intended for Sale.
31 a small picture of ffrost on copper. £6.6.0 32.
A Fruit picture - £22.1.0 34.
A long Nangoyon + £10.10.0 56.
Flight into Egypt. £5.5.0 57.
A droll picture. £6.6.0 56.
Flight into Egypt - £5.5.0 57.
a droll picture £6.6.0 58.
a doman and woman sporting - 60.
battle with Whitehorse £8.8.0 61.
Calm with Whitehorse - by Brooking - £8.18.0 62.
an Oldman lighting his pipe - £- 64 - Landscape - by Savory £5.5.0 68. a droll fellow hugging a pitcher £3.3.0 70. a man playing on music £7.13.0 75. a head. - by Oustade £3.13.6 76. Flemish Water(?) £21.0.0. 81. a boar Drinking - £5.5.0 83. an old Woman's head and flower piece £7.7.0 an historical £14.14.0 a Sea 10.10.0, a ffruit, £8.8.0. Three pieces - £33.12.0 a head £4.4.0 2 fflemish sketches - Vanderbank -
a large picture of Beasts Visitation of the Virgin Wood scene - by Bliss Pair of Sea pieces by Brooking a landscape - by Pouschon - £4.4.0 Adoration of the Shepherds a small ffrost a Town on ffire A ffrost piece - by Vandon - £3.3.0 an Italian Seaport a Landscape by Vanbaben an Italian view
A list of Pictures hanging at Knightsbridge - and now called "Stratherden"(?) House - then the property of our Grandfather. (Louise M-C's handwriting) A list of Pictures at Mr.Walker's which Mr.Marsh means to keep.
- A large picture - Vandervelde
- A large picture - Rickart
- Storm, Shipwreck of sir Gloyshovell - Vandervelde
- Rysdale ffery boat - Small
- a droll picture - Valentine
- a small Landscape - Begayn\
- a large Landscape - Foquer
- Goats and Sheep - by Fively
- Fortune teller - large
- Tillbinge - large
- Smugglers - Vangoyn
- 2 Landscapes - Swanivela
- Sophonesba -
- Landscape - Wenix
- 2 small pictures - Marias lly
- -ditto
- large Landscape - Bath
- ditto - Rysdalse fferry boats
- a Sea piece - a Chace - Vandervelde
- Smoaking figures - Tiniers.
- a ffine drawing - Phillips Laure
- a Bridge - Both
- Gothic Castle - Vangoyens.
- Man sleeping with a book.
- a fflemish man and woman
- Moonlight - Vanderneir.
- Garden of Love
- Tobias & Angel - Swaniveld
- 2 small landscapes - Wilson
- a large Bacchanal
- a ditto
- a Landscape - Wilson
- a Cavern in the stile of Rubens. - Teniers.
- Venetian Galley
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- 2 small landscapes - Brugall
- Holy ffamily - Huens
- Madona and Infant - Marrati
- Shepherds adoration
- a small picture - Paul Brill
- a Landscape without Wahr - Vangoyen
- a School - Oslade
- a view in Italy - Wilson
- a ffine engraving view - Denhenish
- Witches - Tiniers
- & 48. 2 Italian pictures - Lucaldi
- an upright Landscape in the Stile of Titian. 50 & 51. 2 upright Landscapes in the Stile of Berchem
- a large Picture - Rembrant
- 2 ffriars Heads - Reuben
- a small Moonlight
- a small Waterfall - Muchnon
- a small sheep picture - Jardini
- a domestic of Reubens at work.
- a small head - Ostade
- a fflower piece. - Verelsh
- a Lady's head on Copper
- a small scroll - Derrh Halls
- an upright Landscape - Norriagen
- a Landscape - by Tiniers.
- a Mondsbank - Hornskirk
- a small picture of Cattle
- a small (Garden?) conversation
- Buildings and Figures - Limbeek
- a large picture - Meuchrron.
- Man and woman heads - Tiniers
- a Sandbank - Rysdall
- Battle piece.
- a Boat pitching by moonlight.
- a Man's Head - K.Hulls
- a large picture of Dead Game -
- a pleasant Landscape with Rain - Vangoyen 77 & 78. 2 sketches of Reubens - Garden of Love
- a view of Dart - Cuph Simm
- a small storm - Vandervelde 81 Jupiter and Callisto 82 & 83. 2 views in Holland - Manns
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1826 Saturday 17 June 1826 Royal Gazette of Jamaica Deaths At Spring Gardens estate, in (Portland?) on the 7th inst. after an illness of eight days, John Milbourne Marsh Esq., He was many years Deputy Postmaster General of this Island. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/estate/view/2783
Wednesday 2 August 1826 Limerick Chronicle Deaths. At Jamaica, on the 7th ult. John Milbourne Marsh Esq. eldest son of John Marsh Esq., late Chairman of the Victualling Board
1827
File 0367
Interesting Memorandum of my dear Grandfather Marsh
17 November 1827.
Mary Marsh, Blackheath (different handwriting - Louisa MC?) 4th daughter of W.(Marsh?) (Maul?) and step-sister of Arthur Cuthbert Marsh - our Father ELMC.
To the Memory of George Marsh Esq, one of the Principal Officers and Commissioners of his Majesty's Navy who Died the 27th day of October 1800, Aged 78 years. He served in various Naval Departments upwards of 64 years, with indefatigable Attention and Fidelity: was Appointed in 1763 one of the Commissioners for Victualling his Majesty's Navy; and by the King's Command (In consequence of the Recommendation to his Majesty by the Earl of Egmont upon his Lordship's Returning from Officer, and signified to him by the Earl of Sandwich, then First Lord of the Admiralty) in October 1772, a Commissioner of the Navy.
Patience, Equity and Order, were seen in all his Concerns, And Temperance was the Companion of his Life Charity, Humanity, and Benevolence, were always uppermost in his Heart For these purposes; he limited his own Desires and Expences, which produced the Sublimest of all Satisfaction, an Independence in his Soul, superior to all Contingencies, and opened the Source upon which the noblest of all Earthly Enjoyment are Desired He Possessed good Health, cheerful Spirits, and (alayed?) those of Happiness, but never the less, he did not neglect the most material of all concerns, the preparing himself for his certain Dissolution, by daily kneeling and offering Praise to Him for these Blessings, whose Throne is Univseral and who (Sisth?) in Secret (pencil) The above is in my Grandfather William Marsh's handwriting.
1828
File 0470
Letter
12 May 1828
Copy of my Letter to Sir Andrew Hammond which enclosed to my friend Mr.Dyer at the Admiralty to forward, not recollecting his address correctly.
From - William Marsh, The Park, Blackheath, Kent.
To - Sir Andrew Snape Hamond Bart.
My dear Sir Andrew,
I find among my late dear Father's Papes, letters from you to him, and sundry Memorandum in his diary, which go to shew, that before his last illness and a very short time only previous to his death, Lord Spencer had consented to do justice to his long and zealous services (and perhaps also from a feeling of justice, to compensate him, for the pecuniary losses he had unfairly sustained, by being deprived of some of those rights and advantages his Seniority at the Board had so fully entitled him) by recommending him to the King for a Baronetcy and Pension, and indeed, that his Lordship intended to mention it to the King at the next Levee on the Wednesday, the 29th of October 1800.
Unhappily, my dear Father died on the 27th, the Monday - preceeded. I cannot doubt therefore from the Personal knowledge the King had of my Father that his Lordship's recommendation would have been graciously received by his Majesty.
You will readily conclude my dear Sir, that at my time of life, and pressed down as I have been, by events caused by the deepest villainy and hypocrisy, human nature could possibly practice (aided unhappily by a blind and fatal confidence) that I am now entertaining the idea, in these terms too of retrenchment and becoming of seeking to revive these claims. But, I have as a son (with a wife and seven children) who has been most urgently (if truth had been heard ) involved in my calamity and to whom a statement of those facts relating to his Grandfather, I have alluded to may by a possibility prove useful at some future day.
The regard with which I confidently believe you hold my Father's memory as your colleague at the Navy Board, and the civility you have always favoured me with, induce me to hope that you will excuse my troubling you with the request, that you will kindly favour me with a statement of your impressions and recollection of what passed at the different periods I have mentioned, between Lord Spencer, yourself and my late dear Father, relative to his retiring from Office (after 65 years constant service) with a Baronetcy and Pension.
I have been happy to hear from an old friend that you enjoy good health, and I beg to assure you that (crossed out - in the recollection of former times) I must ever remain with sincere good wishes and respect, My dear Sir Andrew, your most obediant and humble servant,
William Marsh
File 0441
Letter To - William Marsh Esq., The Park, Blackheath.
Statement of my Dear Father's Service.
Post mark - Night - 20 May 1828
From - Kilburn
My dear Father,
Although I am to have the pleasure of seeing you on Thursday I now send the rough copy of the Statement of my Grandfather's Services &c., in order that you may look it over before you come make such alterations and additions as you may think necessary and bring it with you when I will get some long paper and copy it fairly.
You will be sure I made one or two omissions and transpositions from the Draft you sent me but I think there is no material alteration or improvement.
Mr.Gordon desired me the other day to request you (break?) at his office the first time you are in the City to execute the transfer of an assignment of some reversionary interest made by Lieut. Spillin(?) some time ago to William Marsh & Son; his new Agent has paid off his debt and it is proposed to transfer the Assignment in question to him.
I have already executed it and believe it is quite as it should be.
Ever my dear Father, Your dutiful and affectionate Son,
A.C. Marsh
I hope our fair weather will continue over Thursday.
File 0477
Letter To - William Marsh Esq., The Park, Blackheath, near London
From - Sir Andrew Hamond, Hamond Lodge, near Lynn.,
Date - 29 May 1820
My dear Sir,
I have been so unwell for this fortnight passed, that I have known very little of what has been going on; and I fear I have not answered your letter of the 12th instant; and indeed my memory is so impaired, that I have hardly any recollection of the particular circumstances which occasioned your worthy Father to give up his situation in the Navy Board, which he had held for so many years before I became the Comptroller, and I must assure you that I cannot recollect any circumstances whatever, (which come to my knowledge ) that might have passed between Lord Spencer and himself, at the time he resigned his situation at the Navy Board.
We were always very good friends, and he was always punctual to his Duty; and as well as I can recollect, he quitted the Navy Board, when it was put into 3 committees, but I may be mistaken.
I can however, very sincerely assure you, that no-one more sincerely felt for the unfortunate situation of yourself and the other Partners of that vile wretch Fauntleroy, than I did. And I sincerely hope that you have got the better of that misfortune.
But as I am a total stranger to what passed, between your Father and Lord Spencer, when he resigned his situation, it is not in my power to be of any use to you, in any application you may intend to make to his Lordship. Wishing you health and success.
I remain with much regard,
My dear Sir, your faithful and obediant humble servant,
Andrew S. Hamond.
File 0444
Letters to and from Sir Andrew Hammond, May & June 1828
From, William Marsh, The Park, Blackheath. 12 June 1828
To - Sir Andrew Hammond, Hammond Hall, near Lynn, Norfolk.
My dear Sir Andrew,
I ought not to omit thanking you for your friendly reply to my letter of the 29th of last Month, more especially as you had been unwell when you received my letter! I sincerely hope as we have lost our vile East Winds that you feel the benefit of the change, and are by this time perfectly recovered! I was in hopes you might (like my late dear Father) have kept a Diary and consequently been able to have readily complied with my request in my former letter. I must however, beg to assure you that any recollections you might have favoured me with were solely (wished?) for my own gratification, and that I had not the most distant idea of "Making any Application to Lord Spencer." I collect from my Father's Diary that his Retiring from the Board appeared to have been urged to him, and indeed arranged with Lord Spencer by Lord Gambier, our late friend Mr Gambier and with your knowledge several years before my Father's Death, but which was not concluded as the new (modeling?) the Board, gave the opportunity of a Seat to Mr.Gambier without my Father's Vacancy!!
And it also appears that some designing person or else some injudicious friend, inserted a paragraph in the Papers detailing the proposed retirement of my Father, and which Lord Spencer appeared to think and take up, was highly improper as he had not then mentioned the arrangement to the King!
My Father could only say, "That his Lordship could not have been more ignorant of or more surprised at the appearance of this Paragraph than he was!!"
Here the question appears to have rested, until about a month or six weeks prior to my Father's Death, when you appear to have favoured him with a visit and again revived the subject, by assuring him that Lord Spencer was fully consenting to the Arrangement, and I recollect seeing amongst his Papers a letter from you confirming this statement, but which letter I cannot now find, it having I am afraid been lost (as all my papers have been out of my hands) and this was the cause I trouble you on the subject. I also wish to state that my Father never (Crossed out - Resigned) "quitted the Board, when it was put into three Committees," though I know he thought that arrangement not calculated to eventually benefit the Public Service.
He died a Commissioner of the Navy. I also find that the week before he died you again kindly called upon him (for his illness was not of a nature to confine him to his bed) and assured him Lord Spencer intended to name the Business to the King at the next Levee which would have been Wednesday the 29th of October 1800, but unhappily my Father died the 27th, the Monday evening preceeding!!
I can not wonder you do not after so many years recollect these particulars, but it is not surprising I should! I should have been happy to have had these statements confirmed under your hand, as possibly some advantage hereafter might have accrued to my son, but for myself, I no longer am the World! I have stepped (or rather have - - ) on one side and am merely looking on upon it, but until I take the last step, I beg to assure you I shall always remain with much respect and esteem, My dear Sir Andrew, your most obediant and humble servant, William Marsh
1825
Thursday 24 Feb 1825
The credits of the Bankers Messrs Marsh and Co., who failed in consequence of Mr.Fauntleroy's conduct, it is said exceed the debts. they owe nearly five hundred thousand pounds, and have property and claims to the amount of nearly five hundred and forty five thousand pounds.
Mr. Fauntleroy
It is generally believed that Mr.Fauntleroy has been a victim to, among other things, the vice of gambling; that is as groundless as the rumour which was lately contradicted of his having been involved in difficulties by building speculations in Brighton. Billiards was almost the only game he was in habbit of playing, and at this he never hazarded more than a shilling; nor at his own table would he suffer others to do so, it being with him a pride to say that a larger sum was never lost in his house.
At whist he also occasionally played, but he was seldom known to exceed a crown, and never guinea points; nor can we learn that he was in the habit of playing at any other game.
Much has been said of Mr.Fauntleroy's intimacy with Mrs.Bertram, alias "Mother Bang" (who, by the bye, is a Brighton woman, and well known there by the name of Kent". We know that he has not seen her for period of several years.
It is stated that Mr.Fauntleroy frequently visited the Continent, and spoke fluently several foreign languages. On the contrary he was never out of England for more than a few hours, and spoke no living language but his own. Has resided at Tungridge Wells, occasionally visiting Brighton, and other watering places, but never going to London.
The establishment of Mr.Fauntleroy in Surrey was by no means on so extensive a scale as has been represented, the house being really a small one, nor is it true that he had any establishment at the west end of the town, as has been stated, or indeed any other place except Brighton; the one referred to was in the suburbs of London, in the neighbourhood of Lambeth or Vauxhall, and so little was it known, that the peace-officers had considerable difficulty in finding it.
It is also untrue that the female who resided there, was brought by Mr.Fauntleroy to this country from Paris; although she was educated in France, she is an English woman and her name is Miss F - - - ,but she afterwards assumed the name of Mrs F - - - . She occasionally visited Brighton, but when she did so, she occupied a separate house or lodgings.
It has been reported that Mr.Fauntleroy was in the habit of bringing females of a certain description to his residence here. This is not the case, nor is it we believe true, that Mrs K - - -, a lady well known in Brighton, and who is now living here in great style, was formerly under his protection, although he was acquainted with her.
Mr.Fauntleroy when at Brighton lived in a very quiet way, as we learn from those who have dined with him, his dinners being as remarkable for their plainness as his wines was for their excellence; he kept no plate in his house, bringing it with him from London; and his establishment consisted only of a gardener, and, we believe, two females servants.
In addition to what has been said above, we can also positively state Mr.Fauntleroy never entered a gambling-house in his life. A gentleman residing in this town married a cousin of Mr.Fauntleroy.
1834
1 January 1834
High Court -
English Reports Citation Kings Bench and Exchequer Chamber.
Plaintiffs - William Marsh, Josias Henry Stracey and George Edward Graham.
Defendant - Ann Keating
Keating, a customer of M. & Co., Bankers, with whom she kept an account, gave a power of attorney to the partners to receive the dividends upon her stock in the government securities; under this power the dividends were at different times received by Marsh and Fauntleroy, two of the partners.
In 1824, under a power of attorney forged by Fauntleroy, £9000, three per cent, reduced annuities, part of the stock of Keating, was sold for £6000 13s. 2d., and transferred in the Bank books to T., who had other stock of the same kind.
Half of the commission upon this transfer was paid by the broker to Marsh and Co. The proceeds of the stock thus sold were paid into the house of Marsh, Stracey and Co. (city bankers) to the account of Marsh and Co. ; and entered in a pass-book, which from time to time was sent to Marsh and Co.
After the transfer several balances were struck between the city bankers and Marsh and Co. In 1825, Fauntleroy being indicted for other forgeries, was convicted and executed. No indictment was ever preferred against him for the forgery in question. Upon these facts, found by special verdict, it was held that Keating, in an action brought against Marsh and the surviving partners of the firm of Marsh and Co. for the proceeds of the sale of the stock, as money had and received to her use, was entitled to recover.
This was a writ of error, brought in the names of William Marsh, Josias Henry Stracey, and George Edward Graham (the Defendants below), on the affirmance by the Court of Exchequer Chamber of a judgment in the Court of King's Bench, in an action by Ann Keating (the Plaintiff below), against the said William Marsh, Josias Henry Stracey, and George Edward Graham, for money had and received by the said William Marsh, Josias Henry Stracey, and George Edward Graham, to and for the use of the said Ann Keating; such action having been brought, and a special verdict taken therein by consent, and judgment also having been entered up without argument against the said William Marsh, Josias Henry Stracey, and George Edward Graham, the Defendants in the said action in the said Courts of King's Bench and Exchequer Chamber, for the purpose of the same being brought by writ of error before the House of Lords.
This was directed to be done by a certain order made by the Lord Chancellor in the matter of the said William Marsh, Josias Henry Straeey, Henry Fauntleroy, and George Edward Graham, bankrupts, bearing date the 12th day of May, 1831, upon two several petitions presented to his Lordship by the assignees of the said bankrupts; by one of which petitions the said assignees prayed (among other things), that the proof of debt made by the said Mrs. Ann Keating, under the commissions against the said bankrupts, might be expunged; and by the other of the said petitions, they prayed to be permitted to file a bill in the High Court of Chancery, to expunge the said proof; and that, in the mean time, certain other petitions, which they had presented to his Lordship for expunging other like debts, might be ordered to stand over until a final decision should have been given in the said [653] suit so to be instituted. - continues - - -
1835 Image Shooters Way - Penny Post 6th May 1835 Mr S.Sidder., Rochester. Acknowledges my letter of the 4th and that he would take an early opportunity of inspecting the Vault in Gillingham Church
Rochester 6 May 1835
Dear Sir
With infinite pleasure I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your kind letter of the 4th instant and altho' it is a long time since We had any communication, you have on many occasions frequently occupied my mind, and am now happy to find that you are in enjoyment of good health, as I have also reason to be thankful for the share of good health that I have so long enjoyed, but my sight is not good as I could wish, and which I attribute in a great measure to writing by candle-light.
With respect to Gillingham, altho' at your advance period of life (being Senior by 8 years) I probably may be the first to go, yet it is a gratifying and pleasant reflection, to find that in the event of my surviving you, the same good feeling existing now as at the decease of your worthy and excellent father, 34 years ago, as to induce you to think of me on such occasion, which I trust please God may yet be some few years, but should such Offices be required in my life time, the same attention shall be paid as heretofore, to the other branches of your good family.
But in case it should please God to take me first, I have two sons who I would recommend, partners in the business and very attentive, the eldest about 45 years, has had eleven children - nine living - His brother, fearing such might be his lot, remains single.
I am very sorry to find that your son, George had been for so long a period, so seriously ill, and can readily conceive your anxiety, but sincerely hope your apprehension of his decease may be far distant and that he may yet be restored to his wife and young family.
Dr Page is quite well, who I presume, that you having a Faculty Vault, consider you as on former occasion. My son Samuel has been near you house twice lately on business to Sir I Aprece(?) and I certainly should have desired him to have called to enquire after your health had I known your residence.
My poor wife am sorry to say has been confined to her room upwards of 7 months with Parellises on her right side from the shoulder to her foot. She is taken out of bed into a chair with casters at the bottom and wheeled to and from the fire-side, morning and evening, but thank God fells no pain and has a good appetite.
But what is still worse, her sight is so very bad that she can neither read or write or work, but very patient under her sufferings.
Yet hoping it may please the Almighty that your son George may speedily recover, and in case you should fell disposed in course of the summer to take a trip to Gillingham in the course of the summer I should be most happy to have the honor of seeing you at my house to accompany you, but not to visit our excellent friend Mr Scott, and I remain,
Dear Sir
Most sincerely and respectfully Your very humble servant.
Sam'l Sidder
I should have written before, but have been engaged at Marden on surveying and marking timber to be felled.
2 June 1835 -
Mr S. Sidder & co Mr S.Sidder,
Surveyor & Builder, Rochester
(Ti?) Jn's Hester June 2 - to removing the stone work and opening the Vault of G. Marsh Esq. fixing the Iron Bearers, refixing the stone work and making the paving in Gillingham Church. £ s. d. 6 loads of mortar - £0.3.0 3 feet of York paving - £0.3.0 7 foot paving tiles 19 bricks - £0.4.6 2 Bricklayers, 2 labourers, 3 days - £1.1.0 Allowance given to workmen - £0.2.0 . £1.13.6 Received of Mr Sidder J Hester
File 0052
13 June 1835
Mr S. Sidder -
Stating that he had been into the Vault at Gillingham Church, and also with a copy of the Register of all those dear friends already in it!!
Shooter'ws Hill - Penny Post
To - William Marsh Esquire, Blackheath Park
Postmark - Rochester - July 1835
William Marsh Esquire NZ -
When I receive an Account of the expenses I will agreeably to your request, forward it accordingly. Mr Bensted desires His beset Respects. He (stays?) very much and appears to be growing the Old Man. I had forgot to state that there is another large Vault adjoining the one before stated, sufficient to contain, ten or twelve coffins with grown persons. - - -
-with a copy of the Register, by which you will perceive that your dear little Sarah is included therein. -
Register Buried -
Mrs Mary Long - 30 January 1770.
Miss Ann Narsh - 16 August 1777.
(two above) Removed into a new Vault 17th January 1777.
Miss Ann Marsh name inscribed on the Middle Monument.
Mrs Ann Marsh - 9 April 1784
George Marsh jun Esquire - 20 January 1790. * right date
Mrs Amelia Marsh - 12 July 1793.
Miss Sarah Marsh - 5 September 1793 (
four above) These four Names also inscribed on the Middle Monument.
George Marsh Esq. - 4 November 1800 - Inscription on the East Monument
Mrs Francis Marsh - 13 April 1805 -
Miss Francis Mary Marsh - 9 May 1818
(above two) Name inscribed on the Western Monument
Master Arthur Marsh - 30 August 1824
William Marsch Junior Esq. - 24 September 1824
Signed - D. Bensted, Parish Clerk.
I feel very great pleasure, and am extremely happy to find Dr Holland has taken leave of your son George, stating to be out of all danger. And that your good self and family may, by the blessing of God long live to enjoy a state of good health in which my family join. I remain - My dear Sir, Most respectfully, Your very (abelated?) Sam'l Sidder.
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- 2 - Should this not have been 20th of June 1790 in which month and year brother died + 20 July 1790 is the right date. 20th of June 1790 for my brother not as Mr Sidder has wrote it.
28 June 1835
Mr S. Sidder, Rochester, the account of the expense of some alteration in the Family Vault at Gillingham. £4.19.01 - and my answer of 1st July 1835 Shooter's Hill - Penny Post (Postmark) - Rochester - July 9 1835
Rochester, 28 June 1835.
Dear Sir,
Agreeably to your request I forward the annexed Account of the expenses for opening and closing the Vault in Gillingham Church, which at your perfect leisure with thank you to pay Messes Siddon and Glyn & Co, on account of the Rochester Bank, and hoping that yourself and Family will continue to enjoy good health and that your son George may be fully restored.
I remain, Dear Sir, Most repectfully,
Your humble servant.
Sam'l Sidder William Marsh Esquire - To Messrs Sidder
2nd June - No.5 Iron bars in the vault - £3.3.2
Paid Carriage £0.3.0
Dr John Hester as (F ?) a/c enclosed £1.13.6 . £4/19/8
(pencil under) £5.0.0 £1.13.6 £3.6.6 + 3.6 = £3.10.0
1836
file 9917
22 May 1836
from - William Marsh, Blackheath Park, Blackheath,
To - Rev'd I.Page D.D., Vicarage, Gillingham.
Dear Rev'd Sir,
In my reply to your letter of the 30th March I informed you that I was the next day to leave home for sometime, and I am sorry that since my return I have not sooner been able to write to you. I mentioned in that letter that I would take an Opinion upon the question between us, and as I have no wish for any concealment, I annex a copy of Dr Addams's Opinion; but by which you will only collect that we are at liberty to enter into a suit in "The Arch-Bishop's Court of (Reviews)" I concluded we can have but one Opinion upon that point.
I will therefore as briefly as possible state my view and feelings upon the question between us.
My Father in December 1777 obtained a Faculty for a Vault in Gillingham Church (with the consent of the then Vicar and the Parish in a Vestry called for that purpose) for the exclusive burial of himself and family. The Rev.'d Mr. Jenkinson, the then Vicar proposed the fees to be established for the Vicar and Clerk, and requested my father's written Agreement and approval of the same, and with which request my father complied as follows.
" London Navy Office, 11 December 1777 Sir, Having obtained a Faculty for building a Vault for a Burying place for myself and family in Gillingham Church near Chatham, Kent, I do hereby engage myself and Executors to pay to the Minister of the Parish, Two pounds 12s / for the burial of every corpse hereafter therein, provided the person so buried should not be a Parishioner, but if a Parishioner one pound six shillings only to be paid for that purpose"
George Marsh
The above was enclosed was enclosed in a letter to the Rev'd Mr Jenkinson as follows -
"Sir, I have obtained the faculty which my Brother will present to you to be Registered, and inclosed is the Obligation you request from me. I have (desired?) my Brother to present you with five pounds for the trouble I have given you on this occasion."
I am - - George Marsh
In reply on the 18 December Mr Jenkinson sent the following note to Milbourne Marsh Esq, (Commissioner Marsh's Brother) and who was then Agent Victualler at Chatham)
"Mr Jenkinson with respectful compliments to Mr Marsh, sends the underwritten for his inspection. George Marsh Esquire, one of the Commissioners of his Majesty's Navy obtained a Faculty to build a Vault for a Burying Place for himself and Family, exclusive of all others in the Parish Church of Gillingham, the sixth day of December 1777.
This is the manner Mr Jenkinson intends to Register the Faculty if Mr Marsh approves of it." Gillingham, 18 December 1777"
From the above date until (August &) September 1824, a period of nearly 50 years Nine Funerals took place in this vault when the Fees invariably paid in each instance were as follows made out in a Bill ( in conformity with Mr Jenkinson, the round sum made out, signed and received by Mr Binsted his Clerk.
A Bill of the customary fees due to the Minister and Clerk for a Burial in Gillingham Church in the County of Kent, one who did not die in the Parish of Gillingham aforesaid, To the Minster the sum of Two Pounds, 12s. to the Clerk the sum of One pound, 2 shillings, and 3d for Stamp Duty," Received in full (sum?) John Binsted, Clerk"
It may not be amiss to state that for many years after the Faculty was granted, my Father and myself had a small Freehold in the Parish. The two Burials in August and September 1824 when your fee was 'By inadvertence" as you state, charged only £5.5.0, one of them was that of my eldest son's infant, and the other that of my youngest son, William and the whole accounts for both were settled by my eldest son as the father of one and executor of the other with Mr Siddons but which for reasons I have fully explained in my former letter, I could have no knowledge of the increase to £7.14.0 and consequently could not then object to the same, nor have I yet been able to learn whether as you received only £5.5.0 Mr Bensted had the increased balance of £2.9.0?
But the impossibility of my knowing of any alteration in these (as I feel settled ) fees, is surely a much stronger plea for my not then objecting, or not on the recent occasion, "making any previous enquiries of my Undertaker!" than mere "inadvertence" can be for not demanding an increased(?) (and increasing) fee!
If upon any future application for a Faculty Vault in Gillingham Church yourself and the Party soliciting same might then fairly enter into a Treaty for any Sum you might agree upon for your fee, as the Rev'd Mr Jenkinson and my Father did and then with the consent of the Parish the Faculty might be obtained.
But I presume to think that you are now as morally bound by what was so settled, and so repeatedly acted upon, as by any other due or right existing whom you succeeded to the (Vicarage?), and that if a "Convocation or association" of neighbouring Clergymen can at any time meet and settle an increasing fee, no person would probably in future incur either the trouble or expense of soliciting a Faculty.
You observe "that after all, how small a portion of funeral expenses our Church Rates are." I believe beyond doubt that those persons who usually conduct "the melancholy Ceremony" or rather those that keep the (Heavy?) Black Coaches &c &c and all the other necessary (because usual) Paraphernalia, on such occasions are few in number in any district and consequently take every possible advantage of the situation and feelings, and the impossibility of the moment of the parties to help themselves, and therefore extort as you state - but I am quite unwilling to suppose, or admit, that this should form an example for a Member of the Established Church.
A Burial in the Church imposes no extra or inconvenient Duty upon the Incumbent, but quite the contrary, as the whole duty is performed in the Church, without his being exposed to a Walking all seasons to a distant corner perhaps of an extensive and exposed Church yard, and for a very triffling fee!
You also state that "Mr Jenkinson found it necessary to raise the fees to prevent the Church and Church yard from being completely blocked up." He certainly never appeared to have felt that this consideration applied to his Agreement with my Father!
I cannot, of course, be certain how many Faculty Vaults there may be in Gillingham Church, but I cannot but think that the Church was "Blocked up with them," as you express it, it ought not to be a source of regret, at the fee, settled with the Rev'd Mr Jenkinson, and in so many subsequent instances uniformly paid. For these, and other reasons alluded to in my former letter as well as in your's, I cannot but persevere in thinking the fee of £20.12.0 (?) as settled at the time the Faculty was granted, an ample fee for the Duty preformed and that it would be deemed so by your Diocison (?), or Arch-Deacon, or in any Court - - I am ready to pay the same either in London, or Rochester, as you may request.
I beg leave to assure you that in what I have stated I merely wish to express my plain view and feelings upon the question, and that I remain,
very truly,
Dr & Rev'd Sir, Your Obedient Servant, William Marsh
P.S.
I do not see by Mr Siddon's Account that he has any thing to Mr Bensted - The only Item at Gillingham is the usual Bank Acc for yourself. I have mislaid Dr.Addams's opinion but I will find it and send you a copy tomorrow Monday - I have found the Opinion but it will be too late for this Post, but I copy it. I might have remarked in the above letter, in reply to what Dr.Page states about "Mr Jenkinson rasing the fees" that he could not have refused the Church Yard for a Parishioner, but need never have provided it to a non-Parishioner,and that if the Church Yard from the increase of the Population was in danger of "being Blocked up," raising the fees would make one foot more room, and the proper and only remedy would be, "for the Parish to find a new or additional Church Yard" -
File 9916 envelope 24th May 1836 Copy of my letter to Dr Page with copy of Dr Addams's Opinion.
1838
File 9882
Letter 30 March 1838
from - Vicarage, Gillingham
To - Mr Marsh
Dear Sir,
I hear with much regret from Mr Siden that your delay in the payment of Burial Fees arrises from a doubt of the propriety of my claim. Now as this is the first instance of that propriety being questioned during my Incumbancy, I think it right to offer you an explanatory statement; in order that the matter may be settled, without giving me any longer plea for suspecting your liberality, or allowing you to suspect one of extortion - premising that I think you would have done better had you directed your Undertaker to make the proper enquiry previously to the Burial
My Predesessor (some years before my accession to the Living) in consequence of the numerous applications from the vast increasing Population for Vaults, gravestone &c, felt himself obliged to raise the amount of Fees, to prevent the Church and Churchyard from being completely blocked up: and soon after my coming, upon a requisition from the Incumbents of Chatham, and St.Margarets, Rochester, it was agreed to equalise all our Fees, to prevent any complaint and invidious comparisons among the Inhabitants of our several Parishes.
The Fee for opening a Vault for Burial in the Church was somewhat less in my Parish than at Chatham, and that at Rochester was higher than either. We therefore took Chatham as the mean between the other two, and that was 5 guineas, and double that sum for a Non-Resident in the Parish.
When your Grandchild was buried in 1824, you were charged by some inadvertence 5 guineas (as for a resident Parishioner); and when after a lapse of 3 weeks only, you had the misfortune to lose a son, at a period of peculiar distress.
I forbad my Clerk to trouble you with any mention of our recent inadvertence, and out of respect to your family, made only the same charge of 5 guineas again.
Since that time the 10 guineas (with 1.10.0 for the Clerk and Sexton) have been regularly paid without demur in every case similar to your Vault; and how small a portion, after all, of Funeral Expenses our Church Fees are, I cannot held thinking you would have viewed the matter in a different light, had you been aware of the circumstances I have just explained.
At all events, I am anxious to convince you that I have no wish to be imposing or litigious, but that I should sincerely regret any interruption of those feelings of kindness and respect which I have uniformly entertained for yourself and your family. and believe me, Dear sir, Yours very truly, I Page
File 9885 Letter cover - of above To - William Marsh Esquire, Blackheath Park 30th March 1838 - Dr Page with my reply of 4th April Postmark - Shooters Hill, Penny Post.
File 9886
Letter
4th April 1838,
Blackheath Park To - Rev'd I Page D.D., Vicarage House, Gillingham, Kent
Dr & Rev.d. Sir!
I duly received the favour of your letter of the 2nd inst. I beg leave to assure you that I have not the slightest feeling of "hostility" arising out of the question at present existing between us!
At the same time it must appear that I consider the fees you state to have been approved of and settled with yourself and your neighbouring respectable - - - , too high for the occasion and duty performed; and they if at such a meeting the fees can be so settled, there can be no certainty that a future Incumbent may deem "proper!"
Burying in the Church imposes extra or unpleasant Duty upon the Clergyman, but not decidedly the converse. I admit, he is the natural and proper Guardian of the venerable building, but for the benefit and use of the Parish, and not for any exclusive Possession!
I do not suppose "a Faculty" may have the same legal force as a (Mohus?); but as your predecessor at the time the Vault was built, settled the fees, it may be said you as his successor if not legally bound by them, are morally so!
In truth, if the Church was full of Faculty Vaults, it would it would be a great benefit to the Incumbent, with such fees as settled by the Rev.d. Mr Jenkinson! I would explain to you, that for the four or five Funerals subsequently to the Faculty being granted, the fee was always the same, as settled by that Gentleman! My eldest Son's infant, and my younger son's burial, both in September 1824! I had nothing more to do with, than to give my consent (as the Possessor of the Faculty) to their being buried in the Vault.
My eldest son's child died in the month, and was conveyed to the Church in a private carriage, by the Nurse and another female servant, and the whole expense of course was defrayed by my son, and who from the consequent small amount of the same, probably never took any notice of the Items in Mr Sidden's account!
When my youngest son was buried a week or two after, he being of Age, and having a Property under his mother's Marriage settlement; lived at Exmouth, where he died, and by his Will appointed his elder brother his Executor, and who therefore received and paid everything relative to his Estate, and I never knew or imagined any alteration in the fees, I had before so repeatedly paid, as I never saw Mr Siddon's account.
I state this to show why I could not object to the increase upon these two previous occasions! I am, and ever have been a sincere friend of the Established Church, and therefore request that (in these times in particular) my
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any such question should arise in which I am a Party, But, being now in my 84th Year! and having 2 son and four daughters, and twelve grand-children, similar occasions to the late unhappy recent one, must and will (too frequently perhaps) occur! and consequently I feel it an imperative duty upon me, to now endeavor to fix a reasonable and permanent arrangement of the question! - otherwise, "the Faculty" my become a useless or a burdomsome Privilege(?)! and this is rendered the more probable, from the circumstances, that have occurred in 1824, and to which you allude!
In this point of view therefore, I do not feel that the question can be viewed either as one of "Liberality or Extortion."
Under this feeling therefore I shall stake the case to an Eminent (civilist?) for his opinion, and in the hope that it may lead to an amical and fixed arrangement. In the meantime, and always I shall remain, Dr & Rev.d Sir,
Yours most truly,
- Marsh
P.S. early next week I am going from Home for a fortnight, only.
envelope 27: The faculty parts of the Vault "to the Family" - Resident Parishiones or not"
file 9892
envelope cover 4th April 1838
Copy of my reply to the Rev. Dr. Page's letter of the 30th March
Letter Postmark 29 May 1838
From Rev.Dr.I Page, Gillingham,
To William Marsh, Blackheath Park, Blackheath.
WM note - 29th May 1838,
Dr Page with my reply of 30th June.
Dear Sir,
I found your letter of the 24th inst awaiting my return home, from which I have been some days absent, and I sincerely regret that this Question of Fees should have given you so much trouble; and that I am not willing to prolong it, I will at once assure you that in order to meet your views and at the same time not compromise my own, I have made up my mind to waive both Mr. Jenkinson's Fee, and Dr.Radcliffe's and my own augmented one. I must beg you therefore merely to direct Mr Sidden to pay our poor old Clerk his Fee, and to take no farther notice of mine.
In justice however to my case, I must be allowed to add a comment or two in good humour on your letter.
Dr.Addam's Opinion leaves the question nearly as it stood before. He truly says "There is no defined Law applicable to such a Case:" and this agrees with a written opinion (now lying before me) of Dr Swabey given on a similar occasion in 1810, in which he says that "as to amount of Fee for permission &c an Incumbent would do well to exercise reasonable discretion in which he may be guided by the usage of neighbouring Incumbents.
The Law however (he adds) has not prescribed any certain payment for such permission." . . . I find my Predecessor, Dr.Radcliffe, giving a peremptory order to the Sexton in 1784, to raise the Fees on Vaults and as a protection from the increasing demand from an increasing Population he expresses himself thus, "I have upon mature deliberation resolved, and I do hereby give you notice &c" from which it is evident that he (himself an Archdeacon) believed that he had an absolute right to raise his Fees on reasonable grounds, and that he was not bound by any Resolution of his Predecessor, Mr Jenkinson.
Indeed I cannot see what right an Incumbant can have perpetually to bind his Successor as to amount of Fees, any more than as to amount of Tithes. I might as well feel myself morally bound to receive no more than the £15 fixed as the value of my Living in the King's Books.
In the original correspondence (which you have copied for me), between Mr Jenkinson and your Father, I find only that the former fixed certain fees, to which Mr Marsh engaged for himself, and his Executors to pay him; but I discover no engagement on Mr Jenkinson's part, that his Successors in the Living should for ever be paid the same, and he doubtless considered it (for he had indeed no right to do otherwise) as merely a personal compact.
The reasonableness of my alteration consisted (as I had presumed on the above-mentioned Opinion of Dr.Swabey) in assimilating my Fees to those of two other most populous neighbouring Parishes, in doing which, some Fees even diminished, others (as unfortunately in the present case) were increased, though not to an amount much exceeding those of my immediate Predecessor, Arch-Deacon Radcliffe. ..... Dr.Addams thinks my demand excessive, but he states no ground for thinking so. Has he enquired into the usual charges in the London Churches, or other populous towns?
If not - it is more matter of opinion with him.so, I may think that £20 or £50 demanded for a Lawyer in Fee, is excessive - he probably would not think so. As to your implied notion of the amount of Fee being measured by the Minister's actual labour or inconvenienceon these occasions, I cannot believe you serious. That a Clergyman's Services should be remunerated by the standard of a common Labourer's wages, for work done and time occupied, is at least not very complimentary to the profession; and I am quite sure that you are the last person to have so requited the performance of the office of Matrimony or Christening.
You think too that if my Church is filled with Vaults (which I believe it is, or nearly so) an ample Income must arise from their being occasionally opened. Now since my Induction to the Living, in 182x the average of interments in the Church Vaults has been about two in three years!
I leave you to judge whether according to your proposed basis of £2.12.0 for each (supposing all even to the non-Parishioners) the annual Fees would be likely to be 'so great a benefit" as you surmise.
I must add that some of these vaults belong to Families so long and so far removed as never to be opened at all; and that one of them (the next in size to yours) belongs to a family so dwindled in station and circumstances, as scarcely (I am told) to be above requiring Parochial Relief for Burial.
You will excuse, I hope, my trespassing so long on your patience in these remarks, and I assure you that in declining altogether the acceptance of any Fee. I am actuated by no other feeling than that of studying the wishes of those, for whom (like yourself) I have a most sincere respect, and whose favor I should be lothe to forfeit for the sake of any accidental emolument whatsoever. With my best regards to your Family. Believe me , Dear Sir,] Yours most truly. I. Page.
File 9991
(goes to top of Vault correspondence)
Document - The Faculty for the Vault in Gillingham Church, with Plans of the same and sundry letters and other Documents relating thereto, necessary to be kept with the same. William Marsh - 14th November 1827 (initials W.M.) The Faculty granted to George Marsh Esq, his heirs December 1777.
A subsequent Correspondence in May and June 1835 with Mr J Siddon of Rochester. and subsequently in March and May 1838 with Dr.Page!
File 9907
Letter 30 June 1838
Copy of my reply to Dr Page's letter of the 29 May.
From William Marsh, Blackheath Park,
To Rev'd I Page D.D., Vicarage, Gillingham, Kent
The arrival of three grand-children from the Cape and other particular circumstances have prevented me from sooner acknowledging the receipt of your letter of the 29th of last month; but the tenor of which letter had indeed rendered a prompt reply not so immediately necessary!.
I agree that Dr. Addam's opinion leaves the case, nearly as it stood before, as in truth does that of Dr.Swabey in 1810. "The Law is not defined" because it should seem that the question has never been tried, which would I presume be, "what was a reasonable fee in the case" and not what neighbouring Clergymen meeting for the express purpose of determining upon their own question, might at any time agree came under that description - but what had been the reasonable and "accustomed fee" in the Parish, in that particular case.
I never had the most distant idea of classing a Clergyman's duties "with those of a common Labourer" yet it may be said, that a (council, circle?) of neighbouring Incumbants meeting and combining to charge an 'excessive" increase of the fee for one of their paramount Duties, of Universal necessity does rather appear to be descending, more to the worldly practice upon such helpless (?) occasions than upholding the character of the established church.
Most certainly an Incumbent cannot bind his Successors to any Composition he may have entered into for his Tithes! But then the Right is fixed and committed to a tenth; and if a composition is not agreed upon, a Clergyman may take them in kind! I therefore cannot see any anology in our Question to that of a Tithe, and still less, in that of judging of the (rowlus?) of your (or any other) Living from the "King's Book," which constituted as I have always understood that Book was, is never to be taken as any guide to the real value of the Livelihood.
But I do fully accord with you Opinion "That the (Lawlessness, Lawful?) we sometimes hear of are "most excessive" but here again, no analogy exists, because no one is obliged to pay these extravagant fees, for they are incurred from a previous agreement and under the impression of the Party paying them, that a particular Counsel only has the talent to give that colour and turn to his Case, which the more common statement of facts would not evince and which is necessary for his success at almost any price!
But, "everyone must die" and Burials are of daily occurrence and universal necessity; and have (and probably ever will) from the content of history of the Church found a paramount part in the Duty of any Incumbent, and the fee appears to have been so settled as to meet that universal necessity.
I never supposed the burials in "Faculty Vaults" would be frequent in the course of any one Year, but mainly that when they did occur they must be more beneficial as to the fee, and the performance of the Duty more (elyable) in all Seasons.
I had forgotten until I received your last letter, that you did not succeed Mr Jenkinson who died in 1780 when Dr.Radcliffe became the Incumbent and as you state was "Arch Deacon" of Canterbury, and that upon the Doctor's death in April 1822 you became the Incumbent.
Now, I must think that as Dr.Radcliffe who as "Arch Deacon" you appear to state had the power to raise the fees, never did so, upon the following seven funerals during his Incumbancy.
Viz.
1794 - 9 April - Mrs Ann Marsh
1790 - 20 July - George Marsh junior
1793 - 12 July - Mrs Amelia Marsh
1794 - 5 Sept - Miss Sarah Marsh
1800 - 4 Nov - George Marsh Esq
1805 - 13 Aril - Mrs Frances Marsh
1818 - 9 May - Miss F. Mary Marsh
(file 9913) Fees as before paid to the Rev'd Mr Jenkinson as proper and ample, and I cannot but further feel (him?) ought and (dres?) settle the question between us, and consequently I see no fair pretense for the increase!
The Bills for all the seven Burials were uniformly as follows and made out and signed by the Clerk. "Minister - £2.12.0 Clerk & Sexton - £1.10.0 (total) - £4.2.0 - Received - John Bensted, Cleark." aand I observe the usual charge in Mr Sidden's Bill £2.2.6 for the number which makes the expense of Burying in this Vault £6.4.6 in addition to all other charges.
From the allusion in part of your letter you appear fully aware, that although I and my family are happily not reduced quite to the state of a family you quote, still as I believe I have stated in my former letter we are so numerous that unless we can compel the omission of all the expenses not absolutely correct and necessary, we are probably likely to find the Vault in question as useless to us, as the one you have already alluded to appears to be to the family you have alluded to.
I neither can feel it right the question should remain upon the footing you have placed it, and still less, that it is wise or prudent in either part, that it should be so left. Mr Siddons has paid Mr Bensted the £1.10.0, and I am willing to alter the £2.12 - to three Giuneas as your fee for the late and all further Burials in the Vault during your incumbancy and will pay the same in any way you will direct.
In all I have said I beg to assure I have had no other feeling than to state fully and clearly my view of the question, and that I nevertheless remain with all due respect and esteem, Dr & Rev'd, your most obediant servant, William Marsh
File 9900
letter 3 August 1838
from I Page, Gillingham,
To Mr Marsh, Blackheath Park,
Dear Sir,
In my last letter I assure you I was perfectly sincere in the intention I expressed of foregoing any claims for the Fee which had formed the subject of our correspondence;
I have however, since considered that my refusal of any Fee whatever would naturally make you feel yourself under an unpleasant obligation to me; and without any farther hesitation I will accede to any proposal you think right to make, and which will be satisfactory to yourself.
The most convenient mode of transmitting the payment will be to place it to my Account at Messrs Cocks & Biddulph, 43 Charing Cross, whenever you have a convenient opportunity.
The point being settled between us, I am unwilling to recur to any topics of difference between us, because it does not suit my notions of respect due to one so much my senior, and for whose personal character I have always felt the highest esteem.
I have merely to observe that as the Law is not defined the question, how far the charge is "excessive", still remains undecided, and of course you are hardly justified in considering the meeting of neighbouring Incumbents to equalise the amount of Fees as a combination trade with a view to worldly practice, rather than to recourse a due regulation of Parrochial Services.
It must be kept in mind too, that the Minister's Duty arising from the universal necessity to which you allude, extends properly to the administration of simple Burial to Parishioners only. But I will not pursue the subject farther, and have only to express my surprise at what you have stated respecting Dr Radcliffe's Fees on similar occasions from the year 1794 to 1818.
It seems I have been led into an error in supposing that Dr Radcliffe had made a considerable increase of Demand for Fees, after his accession to the Living: for your account must be correct, at least, in your instance: and I am sure you will not wonder at my being at a loss to reconcile it with a Declaration (now before me) of Dr Radcliffe, given under his hand in September 1784, directing his Clerk (the same John Bensted) to demand additional Fees, to protect the Church Yard and Church from the increasing applications of an increasing population.
To which I must add that the List of Fees, which I received, made 40 years afterwards on my accession as those customarily paid in my predecessors time, shewed a consideration augmentation upon these even, which had been ordered in 1784.
In conclusion, you will I am sure believe me that I shall now feel the greatest satisfaction in bidding addieu to any farther painful discussion and that hence forward we shall remain on the same terms of mutual good estimation as on our first aquaintance: and with the sincerest wishes for the very long continuance of your health and happiness, and the welfare of your family Believe me, my Dear Sir. Yours very truly, I. Page
X - Vide my letter of the 30th June
Response from William Marsh Blackheath Park, 6 August 1836
Dear Rev'd Sir,
I will not delay one Post in acknowledging the receipt of your letter of the 3rd inst, and expressing my great gratification at it's contents, as it settles a question that had arisen on my part more from necessity, when looking forward for others! than (I can with truth add) any other feeling.
I have been confined to the house for the last fortnight by an attack of (Enjisselus?) which though very slight, have deemd it prudent to promptly attend to. It may therefore be towards the end of this week or the beginning of the next, before I shall venture to town, though I have some rather pressing calls there. but when I do go, I will make the payment of the "three Guineas" myself at Messrs Cocks & Biddulph on your account.
I feel equally unwilling with yourself to have any (reconnence?) to the past; but I will not omit to say that nothing which has passed in our recent correspondence has in the least degree lessoned the truth with which I can assure you I remain with respect and esteem, Dr, & Rev. Sir, your sincerest humble servant. W. Marsh
1839
File Legal document bundle - tied with string - wax seal
William Marsh Blackheath Park, Blackheath
(postmark MR12 - 1890 Ink Stamp - T.P. Charles St, West
12 March 1839
Revd J.s. Page D.D. with my reply of the 13th
23 what was the sum the Dr and I settled to (send?) for it.
inside previous
Little Cloister,
Westminster
March 12 1839
My Dear Sir,
I have been residing in town for some weeks with my family, and have only just heard from Mr Bensted, my Clerk, that you have had another bereavement in your family, to add to your affliction; upon which I beg to offer you my sincere condolences.
My object in intruding upon you by letters at this distressing moment is partly to express my regrets at not being able personally to officiate at Gillingham on Thursday next, and partly to assure you that I have sent directions through to my Curate to Bensted (whose superannuated faculties I dare hardly trust) to charge no more than the Fee for Burial in which was at last amicably agreed upon after our last correspondence.
Again apologising for troubling you,
Believe me, my dear Sir,
Most sincrerely yours.
(J?) Page (to Mr Marsh Esq)
Cover 0 16 October 1839
Rev. I. Page, with my reply of the 24th.
22nd November - paid into Messrs Biddulph's Georgina's Drft for £5 agreeable to the enclosed letter of mine to the Doctor W.Marsh Red wax seal
File 9893
Letter To, Mr Marsh Esq.
from I. Page, Gillingham, Chatham
16 October 1839
My dear Sir,
A begging letter is as disagreeable in general to the person who writes it as to the person to whom it is addressed, but nevertheless I daresay you will pardon my Motive at least, if my petition is not successful. We have begun a subscription for a suitable organ for our Parish Church, which is much needed. The bulk of our Parishioners are, as connected with the Army and Navy, respectable and well educated, but withall of very confined pecuniary means. We have already had numerous subscibers, but the amount of our collection does not yet extend beyond £63 of which I have myself contributed £10. It has struck me that though you are not personally interested in our behalf, you have a solemn local connection with us, which may induce you to give us your assistance. If however you do not consider that connection sufficiently obligating to join us in this parochial improvement, you will excuse at least my request - if, on the contrary, you consider the appeal to your liberality on this occasion as not undeserving of you attention, I shall be most happy to enroll you among our subcribers, and your subscription might at your own convenience be transferred to my account at Cochis & Biddulphs, Believe me , My dear Sir, With the highest respect, Yours very sincerely, I. Page ...... I suppose the Expense of a proper Organ will amount to from £100 to £150
Reply
24 October 1839
Conquorer Hotel, St. Leonard's, Hastings. Dr.Rev.d
Sir,
Your letter of the 16th I received here only yesterday evening in a parcel with several others, or it should not have remained so long unacknowledged!
You take a very correct view of my feelings upon the question and I cordially wish you may speedily obtain an ample fund for the purpose.
I only regret that I cannot at present limit my subscription to five pounds, and which upon my return to Town, I will take an early opportunity of paying the same into Messrs Cocks & Biddulph on your account.
Myself and daughter have been here since the 12th inst with my two grandchildren from the Cape, who have had the Measles very severely, and this change has been recommended as necessary for them!
All the principal farmers in the neighbourhood say that they have not for years had so good a Harvest in all respects, as the recent one. I was equally surprised to hear this, as nothing could be worse than our weather at Blackheath all the months of August and September.
Remain always, Dr & Rev.d Sir, with the sincere respect and esteem, Yours most obedient servant W. Marsh
1842
Monday 19 December 1842
Morning Herald (London)
Married. At Scone, New South Wales, George F. Wise Esq., of Pembridge, Isle of Wight, to Frances, daughter of the late Milbourne Marsh Esq., of Jamaica.
1847
Saturday 2 October 1847
London Mercury 1847
England, India and Australia, -
The India and Australia Mail Steam Packet Company, incorporated by Royal Charter, which limits the responsibility of the Shareholders to the amount for which they individually subscribe, and authorises the Company to establish communications "to and from the United Kingdom, the East Indies, Australia, New Zealand, &c., - Capital One Million sterling; divided into series of shares of £20 each. Committe - Sir G Larpent, Bart., Chairman of the London Committee of 1846 for extension of Steam Navigation to Australia. Sir William Verner Bart., M.P., Hon. Francis Scott M.P., Agent for New South Wales, Sir Thomas L. Mitchell, Surveyor- General of New South Walews, - -- - Milbourne Marsh Esq., =- - -
1848
Monday 31 January 1848
Morning Herald (London) Married. On the 26th inst., at St.Marylebone Church, John Milbourne Augustus Marsh Esq., only son of the late John Milbourne Marsh Esq., of Jamaica, to Grace Elizabeth, eldest daughter of the late Phillip Pinnock Esq., of the same island.
1877
Saturday 3 February 1877
Australian and New Zealand Gazette
Marriages Milbourne Marsh - North - At St.John's, Darlinghurst, by the Rev. T. Hwyden, George Augustus Milbourne Marsh, only son of J.Milbourne Marsh Esq., to Amy Gertrude, youngest daughters f Edward J.C. North Esq.,
1885
Friday 15 May 1885
Colonies and India
Congratulatory Banquet to Lord Carrington.
Sir Saul Samuel K.C.M.G. (Agent-General for New South Wales), gave on Saturday, May 9 a congratulatory dinner to Lord Carrington. (the newly appointed Governor of New South Wales) at Bailey's Hotel, Gloucester Road, South Kensington.
The Banquet was served in the large room, one of the recent additions to the hotel, the tables being decked by a profusion of flowers. Covers were laid for 108 persons. - - -Sir Saul Samual presided, supported on the right by Lord Carrington, the Duke of Bedford K.G., and the Duke of Manchester K.P., and on the left by the Earl of Derby K.G., the Marquis of Lorne K.P., and the Earl of Kimberley. There were present - - - Milbourne Marsh - - - After the Queen's health had been disposed of, Sir Saul Samuel rose and said: - My lords and gentlemen, the toast I have now to propose to you, which I am sure you will drink with all honours, is that of my distinguished guest, Lord Carrington. I have asked you to do me the honour of meeting his lordship here tonight to welcome him on his appointment as Governor of the important Colony of New South Wales, which Colony I have the honour to represent in this country - - - -
1891
Saturday 2 May 1891
Colonies and India
The death is reported from Sydney of Mr. John Augustus Milbourne Marsh, a well-known stipendiary magistrate in that city.
The deceased gentleman was born in Jamaica in 1820,and was the son of Mr.Milbourne Marsh, who was for many years Postmaster-General of Jamaica. His mother was a Miss Grant, a niew of Sir Charles Grant, afterwards created Lord Glenelg, and Mr.Marsh was descended from an old Kentish family.
1897
Tuesday 30 March 1897
Death of Mrs J.M.Marsh
From New Zealand the announcement is made of the death of Mrs J.Milbourne Marsh. The deceased lady was the wife of the late Mr.J.Milbourne Marsh S.M. of Sydney, and sister of Mr.George Pinnock, solicitor, of this city. She was 78 years of age.
The late Mrs.Marsh resided for many years in Bathurst, where her esteemed husband was Police Magistrate. Prior to that he occupied a similar post at Wellington and Dubbo.
1934
Late Mr. G.M.Marsh
An interesting personality was removed by the death on Sunday last at his residence at Roseville, Sydney, of George Milbourne Marsh, at the age of 84.
He was for over 40 years associated with the Department of Justice, the last 20 years of which, prior to his retirement about 14 years ago, were spent at Balmain as Chamber Magistrate and C.P.S. Born at sea on the way out to Australia, from England, he was the only son of the late J.Milbourne Marsh, who also had long association with the department. He was at Yass, Dubbo and Bathurst as P.M.and later S.M. at the Water Police Court.
The late Mr.Marsh had an experience with the Ben Hall gang of bushrangers. The railway at that time did not go beyond Penrith, and he lived with his parents at Wellington, where at that time there were no schools. His education he received in Sydney, and 200 miles between Penrith and Wellington had to be covered on horseback.
The late Mr.Marsh once described an experience:- "My parents decided to send me to school in Sydney, consequently there was nothing for it but to put the saddle on an Arab mare my father had, and ride to Penrith. I did this journey both ways before and after school vacation for a few years.
One morning just after I had left Orange going home prior to the Christmas holidays, I rode into Ben Hall's gang, then pretty troublesome in the district. I suppose I looked a bit green, or they took a fancy to the mare.
They ordered me to stand. I decided to give them a run for it, and putting the mare to it I was soon about to get clear, though they gave chase for some distance. I expected to see them on the return journey, but fortunate l did not.
In the 80's he was appointed to Cobar where most of the miners' huts were then of hessian or bark. He explained that everyone was happy though. There was no scarcity of meat in the West those days, for the late Mr.Marsh was wont to explain that they used to go out and knock a rabbit over with a stick or trail a scrub turkey. "Mutton grew all round them on the stations. Three of Mr.Marsh's sons were on active service during the war. Five sons and two daughters survive. His wife predecessed him 17 years ago. A son is Mr.R.Milbourne Masrh of Byron Bay, who is a member of the staff of the Dairy Branch.